Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier

[kippaxvilla2]

Whether or not you agree with him, to introduce these rules now, at the start of the biggest 8 games since football began in 1992 just smacks of absolute and utter pettiness, tetchiness and any other ness you want to throw into the mix.  This is yet another extraordinarily ill judged faux pas on the manager's part.

If you look at the 8 players, you could argue that 6 at least would be leaving anyway, but we need them NOW so to piss them off at this stage defies any form of understanding at all.

I actually think there was slightly more harmony in the dressing room under McNeil than there is now and that is saying something.

[E I Adio]

a ceo who seems out of his depth

Have I missed something here?

[eastie]

a ceo who seems out of his depth

Have I missed something here?

i take it you think paul faulkner is doing a great job then?

[pauliewalnuts]

a ceo who seems out of his depth

Have I missed something here?

i take it you think paul faulkner is doing a great job then?

Is it possible to think his performance might be questioned without saying he's "out of his depth"?

Everything seems so extreme these days.

Also:

well said clampy, if doug was in charge now hed be getting crucified , record debts, crowds dropping,a ceo who seems out of his depth, a manager who seems to have lost the plot , and a club slipping down the table with players who want out.

I don't remember anyone complaining too much about record debts when we were spending 24 million pounds on a striker in January.

Prior to January - "OMG! Randy is so TIGHT!"
After spending 24m on one player: "OMG! We've got record debts!"

[E I Adio]

a ceo who seems out of his depth

Have I missed something here?

i take it you think paul faulkner is doing a great job then?

The truth is I don't know. Do you?

[eastie]

a ceo who seems out of his depth

Have I missed something here?

i take it you think paul faulkner is doing a great job then?

The truth is I don't know. Do you?

looking at the clubs situation on and off the pitch should give you a very good clue.,what are his credentials for a high profile role at a premier football club? Has he any previous experience in football in any role?

Seems to me he worked in other business for randy and has no football background whatsoever,and it shows.

If doug and stridey were here in this position they would be getting dogs abuse , but some people feel still that randy and paul are blameless.

[brontebilly]

No point burying our heads in the ground. The club is in big trouble and relegation for the clubs finances would be disastrous. Every other club whose new manager presided over such a shambles would also be up in arms.

So how is protesting and generally making ourselves look like Newcastle fans in front of TV cameras going to do anything other than add to the groundswell of ill feeling and negativity at the club?

If there's one thing that will guarantee this club goes down, it is lack of spirit, and I fail to see how a load of foaming-at-the-mouth dimwits getting their mardy faces on SSN is going to be anything but detrimental to spirit.

Pathetic.

There is a complete lack of spirit at the moment as we head towards the second division. I can't see how protesting would worsen that spirit. It's pathetic as supporters to pretend everything is right with the club when it clearly isn't, we are in a right old hole on and off the pitch.
With the players in our squad it is an embarrassment that we are down with the Blackpools. The buck stops with Houllier. There is 24 points left to play for and with a new manager in charge I'd fancy us to get at least 12. People have a right
to demonstrate if they so wish. There is nothing pathetic about standing up for someone you believe to be wrong. Not much point protesting after the event.

[dave.woodhall]

I cant see any other club planning protests. I can't remember it happening last season either. This is making us look like spoilt kids who can't handle our team losing.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

No point burying our heads in the ground. The club is in big trouble and relegation for the clubs finances would be disastrous. Every other club whose new manager presided over such a shambles would also be up in arms.

So how is protesting and generally making ourselves look like Newcastle fans in front of TV cameras going to do anything other than add to the groundswell of ill feeling and negativity at the club?

If there's one thing that will guarantee this club goes down, it is lack of spirit, and I fail to see how a load of foaming-at-the-mouth dimwits getting their mardy faces on SSN is going to be anything but detrimental to spirit.

Pathetic.

There is a complete lack of spirit at the moment as we head towards the second division. I can't see how protesting would worsen that spirit.

I can.
I can't see how protesting will inspire the players and management to produce fighting performances.

If I was being moaned at all day at work, I don't think i'd produce the best results.

The next 8 games are crucial, we have to play our part in getting behind the team, the recriminations can start after the Liverpool game.

[eastie]

a ceo who seems out of his depth

Have I missed something here?

i take it you think paul faulkner is doing a great job then?

Is it possible to think his performance might be questioned without saying he's "out of his depth"?

Everything seems so extreme these days.

Also:

well said clampy, if doug was in charge now hed be getting crucified , record debts, crowds dropping,a ceo who seems out of his depth, a manager who seems to have lost the plot , and a club slipping down the table with players who want out.

I don't remember anyone complaining too much about record debts when we were spending 24 million pounds on a striker in January.

Prior to January - "OMG! Randy is so TIGHT!"
After spending 24m on one player: "OMG! We've got record debts!"

the accounts hadnt been released at that time paulie, but i take your point .

[eastie]

No point burying our heads in the ground. The club is in big trouble and relegation for the clubs finances would be disastrous. Every other club whose new manager presided over such a shambles would also be up in arms.

So how is protesting and generally making ourselves look like Newcastle fans in front of TV cameras going to do anything other than add to the groundswell of ill feeling and negativity at the club?

If there's one thing that will guarantee this club goes down, it is lack of spirit, and I fail to see how a load of foaming-at-the-mouth dimwits getting their mardy faces on SSN is going to be anything but detrimental to spirit.

Pathetic.

There is a complete lack of spirit at the moment as we head towards the second division. I can't see how protesting would worsen that spirit. It's pathetic as supporters to pretend everything is right with the club when it clearly isn't, we are in a right old hole on and off the pitch.
With the players in our squad it is an embarrassment that we are down with the Blackpools. The buck stops with Houllier. There is 24 points left to play for and with a new manager in charge I'd fancy us to get at least 12. People have a right
to demonstrate if they so wish. There is nothing pathetic about standing up for someone you believe to be wrong. Not much point protesting after the event.

I can see your argument bronte , but protesting will only hurt the club and not houllier,it will not achieve anything positive

[pauliewalnuts]

No point burying our heads in the ground. The club is in big trouble and relegation for the clubs finances would be disastrous. Every other club whose new manager presided over such a shambles would also be up in arms.

So how is protesting and generally making ourselves look like Newcastle fans in front of TV cameras going to do anything other than add to the groundswell of ill feeling and negativity at the club?

If there's one thing that will guarantee this club goes down, it is lack of spirit, and I fail to see how a load of foaming-at-the-mouth dimwits getting their mardy faces on SSN is going to be anything but detrimental to spirit.

Pathetic.

There is a complete lack of spirit at the moment as we head towards the second division. I can't see how protesting would worsen that spirit. It's pathetic as supporters to pretend everything is right with the club when it clearly isn't, we are in a right old hole on and off the pitch.
With the players in our squad it is an embarrassment that we are down with the Blackpools. The buck stops with Houllier. There is 24 points left to play for and with a new manager in charge I'd fancy us to get at least 12. People have a right
to demonstrate if they so wish. There is nothing pathetic about standing up for someone you believe to be wrong. Not much point protesting after the event.

What positive do you think protesting is going to achieve?

Nobody is going to sack the manager based on a few hundred people protesting.

[Chris Smith]

What positive do you think protesting is going to achieve?

It will get their ugly mugs on TV and a few column inches in the paper. That is all they are interested in, it's about themselves nothing to do with the Villa.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

What positive do you think protesting is going to achieve?

It will get their ugly mugs on TV and a few column inches in the paper. That is all they are interested in, it's about themselves nothing to do with the Villa.

Correct, hence the return of Fear.
We'll see if he resurrects the insufferable VFC.

[eastie]

What positive do you think protesting is going to achieve?

It will get their ugly mugs on TV and a few column inches in the paper. That is all they are interested in, it's about themselves nothing to do with the Villa.

Correct, hence the return of Fear.
We'll see if he resurrects the insufferable VFC.

Some fans only seem to appear at the time of crisis and are never seen or heard when all is well, as im sure our old friend greg will testify due to reappearance this week.