collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Recent Posts

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier  (Read 58080 times)

Offline WikiVilla

  • Member
  • Posts: 2769
  • Age: 57
  • Location: 8.5 miles from B6
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2011, 05:06:07 PM »
Are we approaching the end of the 5 year plan now ?

Offline PeterWithesShin

  • Member
  • Posts: 78168
  • GM : 17.03.2015
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #91 on: March 24, 2011, 05:08:41 PM »
Are we approaching the end of the 5 year plan now ?

Are we approaching the start of your 5 year ban now ?  ;)

Offline garyshawsknee

  • Member
  • Posts: 5899
  • Location: Hove via Brighton, via Luton
  • GM : 03.06.2020
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #92 on: March 24, 2011, 05:16:42 PM »
Are we approaching the end of the 5 year plan now ?
I presumed it got reset back to year dot when the new manager came in.

Offline Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air

  • Member
  • Posts: 11748
  • Location: Upton Park....No, Olympic Stadium....No, Aston Park...Yes that's it,Turf Moor.
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #93 on: March 24, 2011, 05:22:58 PM »
I am all for free speech and people being entitled to their opinions, but anybody in favour of organised protests or demonstrations because of our present predicament  is a complete and utter idiot, totally wrong in their actions and themselves show a total lack of understanding of the history of Aston Villa.
We have players underperforming and a manager who on the present evidence is not doing an effective job so our team are losing games. Yes thats horrible and I hate it, but the club itself is not disorganised or badly run. The team on the pitch may be rudderless right now, but the club itself is not.
Boo and moan during the match if you dont like what you see, boo them off at half time if you dont like the 1st half, not my style but its an emotional game. Boo them off at the end and scream verbals at the bench at full time if its bad, now that is something I've done on more than one occasion this season.
But planning and organising demonstrations because the team is losing at the moment ? Do me a favour !
We had demonstrations a few years back because Doug wouldnt let go, and it was obvious to many of us that this was increasingly holding the club back. That was justified.
In 1968 the club was rotten from top to bottom and on the verge of bankrupty from years of neglect by directors who were living in the past.  Demonstrations then were not just necessary, they were imperative to the survival of the club. The club was saved and a new era began and we avoided relegation that season. But the next season the team imploded and spectacularly went backwards on the pitch. Just as now, there was reports of player unrest and fall outs with the manager. Just put the name Docherty instead of Houllier, think Mike Ferguson, Dick Edwards, Barry Hole instead of Ireland, Collins, Dunne. Nobody talked of demonstrating, even though we finished up in the 3rd division. Because we knew the basics of the club itself were right.
So to the attention seeking big mouths who seem to be almost revelling in each defeat as they plan protest and revolution, I say shut up. Shut up because you dont cheer in equal volume when we win as you boo when we lose, shut up because you never give credit where its due in equal measure with the criticism you dish out, but most of all shut up because I suspect you are mostly spoilt brats who have known nothing but the premier league and like many modern fans you have no patience and at the first hint of problems you start crying.

Offline PeterWithesShin

  • Member
  • Posts: 78168
  • GM : 17.03.2015
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #94 on: March 24, 2011, 05:26:04 PM »
It would be nice, but it probably wouldn't sell as many papers or get as many reads/views.

Interesting how the Houllier out page has been going for over 4 months and has 658 likes. While our page has been up less than a day and has already passed 400 members.

Offline eastie

  • Member
  • Posts: 19940
  • Age: 60
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #95 on: March 24, 2011, 05:30:35 PM »
wiki,have you chosen your banner headline yet for your march?  i remember the ellis out marches and this will have equally the same effect - none|
« Last Edit: March 24, 2011, 05:39:35 PM by eastie »

Offline 5ft811st2 Durham

  • Member
  • Posts: 579
    • Durham
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #96 on: March 24, 2011, 05:38:17 PM »


   And buying Darren Bent

  And buying Makoun

   And getting Walker on loan.

   And developing , and introducing Bannan, Albrighton, Clark, Baker, Herd, Hogg, Delfounso.

   And trying to play more football.


  Its not all been bad decisions by GH, and tbh this was always going to be a transitional season.It appears that the chasms between the senior players and management, that were suggested by MM, have had a lot more of an influence on team results than we had hoped.

  Not sure why we want player power to win tbh.



I can't see many positives there. Sure he threw some kids in, but big deal most of them have now been packed off on loan.

With regard to the signings Bent was obviously a board initiated panic buy at a drasticallly over inflated price and  Makoun will never be anything other than a liability.

As for the loan signings whilst Walker is a good player, I don't think we should be loaning players from Spurs as in the long run it's of more use to them than it is to us. You didn't mention Bradley. I doubt we'll ever see him again. 

Online Legion

  • Moderator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 59767
  • Age: 54
  • Location: With my son
  • Oh, it must be! And it is! Villa in the lead!
    • Personal Education Services
  • GM : 05.04.2019
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #97 on: March 24, 2011, 05:39:27 PM »
It would be nice, but it probably wouldn't sell as many papers or get as many reads/views.

Interesting how the Houllier out page has been going for over 4 months and has 658 likes. While our page has been up less than a day and has already passed 400 members.

439 in less than 24 hours. Not bad at all.

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

  • Member
  • Posts: 41825
  • Location: In the Shade
    • http://www.heroespredictions.co.uk/pl/
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #98 on: March 24, 2011, 05:43:54 PM »
Great post, Andy Lochhead.

Online German James

  • Member
  • Posts: 6565
  • Location: 438.5 miles away
    • The Limpets
  • GM : 13.02.2025
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #99 on: March 24, 2011, 05:52:13 PM »
Great post, Andy Lochhead.

Absolutely.

Offline Hale

  • Member
  • Posts: 41
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #100 on: March 24, 2011, 06:01:02 PM »
We should back the team (ignore Houllier) for the remaining games.

Positive support is needed - the groans on saturday as villa tried to play were embarrassing.

If we go down lets go down with pride - thats fans & players!

Offline barrysleftfoot

  • Member
  • Posts: 4555
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #101 on: March 24, 2011, 06:06:10 PM »


  Disagree with you about Makoun, Durham.....think he will turn out to be a very good player tbh.

  Walker has certainly been a great loan signing, and Bent over priced?...Carroll for £35m is overpriced.

  GH has used the kids, probably a lot more than he wanted.I don't think we know how much he rebels have hindered our progress this season tbh, Dunne has a history of misdemeanours, and maybe the combination of Ireland, Carew, Warnock,and Collins, has poisoned the positivity at the club.

  I don't want to be an apologist for GH, although i can see the changes he is trying to implement will help the club in the future, and i don't know why we are struggling with he players we have, maybe it is the manager, the formation, the players, but i expect a lot more professionalism than some of the players have shown recently.

Offline Bad English

  • Member
  • Posts: 45481
  • Age: 151
  • Location: Pyrénées Catalanes, France
  • I am Perpignan Villa
  • GM : 29.03.2025
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #102 on: March 24, 2011, 06:56:02 PM »
I am all for free speech and people being entitled to their opinions, but anybody in favour of organised protests or demonstrations because of our present predicament  is a complete and utter idiot, totally wrong in their actions and themselves show a total lack of understanding of the history of Aston Villa.

We have players underperforming and a manager who on the present evidence is not doing an effective job so our team are losing games. Yes thats horrible and I hate it, but the club itself is not disorganised or badly run. The team on the pitch may be rudderless right now, but the club itself is not.

Boo and moan during the match if you dont like what you see, boo them off at half time if you dont like the 1st half, not my style but its an emotional game. Boo them off at the end and scream verbals at the bench at full time if its bad, now that is something I've done on more than one occasion this season.

But planning and organising demonstrations because the team is losing at the moment ? Do me a favour !
We had demonstrations a few years back because Doug wouldnt let go, and it was obvious to many of us that this was increasingly holding the club back. That was justified.

In 1968 the club was rotten from top to bottom and on the verge of bankrupty from years of neglect by directors who were living in the past.  Demonstrations then were not just necessary, they were imperative to the survival of the club. The club was saved and a new era began and we avoided relegation that season. But the next season the team imploded and spectacularly went backwards on the pitch. Just as now, there was reports of player unrest and fall outs with the manager. Just put the name Docherty instead of Houllier, think Mike Ferguson, Dick Edwards, Barry Hole instead of Ireland, Collins, Dunne. Nobody talked of demonstrating, even though we finished up in the 3rd division. Because we knew the basics of the club itself were right.

So to the attention seeking big mouths who seem to be almost revelling in each defeat as they plan protest and revolution, I say shut up. Shut up because you dont cheer in equal volume when we win as you boo when we lose, shut up because you never give credit where its due in equal measure with the criticism you dish out, but most of all shut up because I suspect you are mostly spoilt brats who have known nothing but the premier league and like many modern fans you have no patience and at the first hint of problems you start crying.

Fantastic! I've just added a line after each paragraph and I think I've painted the ceiling.

Online AV82EC

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12756
  • Location: Macclesfield
  • GM : 29.09.2026
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #103 on: March 24, 2011, 06:59:10 PM »
I am all for free speech and people being entitled to their opinions, but anybody in favour of organised protests or demonstrations because of our present predicament  is a complete and utter idiot, totally wrong in their actions and themselves show a total lack of understanding of the history of Aston Villa.
We have players underperforming and a manager who on the present evidence is not doing an effective job so our team are losing games. Yes thats horrible and I hate it, but the club itself is not disorganised or badly run. The team on the pitch may be rudderless right now, but the club itself is not.
Boo and moan during the match if you dont like what you see, boo them off at half time if you dont like the 1st half, not my style but its an emotional game. Boo them off at the end and scream verbals at the bench at full time if its bad, now that is something I've done on more than one occasion this season.
But planning and organising demonstrations because the team is losing at the moment ? Do me a favour !
We had demonstrations a few years back because Doug wouldnt let go, and it was obvious to many of us that this was increasingly holding the club back. That was justified.
In 1968 the club was rotten from top to bottom and on the verge of bankrupty from years of neglect by directors who were living in the past.  Demonstrations then were not just necessary, they were imperative to the survival of the club. The club was saved and a new era began and we avoided relegation that season. But the next season the team imploded and spectacularly went backwards on the pitch. Just as now, there was reports of player unrest and fall outs with the manager. Just put the name Docherty instead of Houllier, think Mike Ferguson, Dick Edwards, Barry Hole instead of Ireland, Collins, Dunne. Nobody talked of demonstrating, even though we finished up in the 3rd division. Because we knew the basics of the club itself were right.
So to the attention seeking big mouths who seem to be almost revelling in each defeat as they plan protest and revolution, I say shut up. Shut up because you dont cheer in equal volume when we win as you boo when we lose, shut up because you never give credit where its due in equal measure with the criticism you dish out, but most of all shut up because I suspect you are mostly spoilt brats who have known nothing but the premier league and like many modern fans you have no patience and at the first hint of problems you start crying.

The post I wanted to write all week but couldn't articulate.  Well done Andy L.

Offline Rudy Can't Fail

  • Member
  • Posts: 41825
  • Location: In the Shade
    • http://www.heroespredictions.co.uk/pl/
Re: Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier
« Reply #104 on: March 24, 2011, 07:00:15 PM »
Indeed BLF, it's been the senior players that have really let us down this season. I must admit I'm very disappointed with Collins, I really thought he was above all this shit.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal