Villa supporters turn up heat on Houllier

[Chris Smith]

I saw the girlfriend of one of the current England squad in the car park up the Lickeys the other day, being shagged by a load of blokes. I asked what was going on and was told that they were dogging the wag.

Sorry, I will go for a long walk to think about the error of my ways.

[Pete3206]

Solidarity is needed at the next home game. Sure, you can scoff at that comment, but Aston Villa must not go down.

Lets get out of the shit before the recriminations begin.

[kippaxvilla2]

At the end of the day the word 'professional' has to mean something in life.  If your a solicitor and you hate your boss you don't fuck up a murder trial deliberately to spite him.  You do the job to the best of your ability, and move on when the time is right.  So the players have to take their fair share of responsibility for being sulky gits.

However, the one thing the manager has almost certainly got wrong since his arrival is the quickness of the change.  It should be evolution rather than revolution.  It was at the end of the day a winning team by and large, so changes to working practices such as training regimes should have been gradual.  I also think that even since he was managing in this league the game has moved on to the point where these players are more pampered and untouchable than ever and he simply doesn't get that.

There's also another view I have and that is some manager's just don't get the ethos of a club. We have a manager in Houllier who I think fits that bill.  He doesn't get the heritage, history or the fabric of the club.  A bit like Dolly if you will.  I think part of that comes from this ongoing lvoe affair with Liverpool. 

All things considered, it isn't a healthy situation and needs to be dealt with before it's too late.

[damon loves JT]

I would love to think the players are out to prove everyone wrong. Maybe we will catch a break and Newcastle won't try

[dave.woodhall]

There's also another view I have and that is some manager's just don't get the ethos of a club. We have a manager in Houllier who I think fits that bill.  He doesn't get the heritage, history or the fabric of the club.  A bit like Dolly if you will.  I think part of that comes from this ongoing lvoe affair with Liverpool. 

I think much the same. Someone yesterday likened Gez to a consultant, doing one particular job dispassionately and with no thought to the greater good of the company. Maybe the whole Liverpool thing has been exaggerated, though, - I don't think he cares about much more than himself.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

There's also another view I have and that is some manager's just don't get the ethos of a club. We have a manager in Houllier who I think fits that bill.  He doesn't get the heritage, history or the fabric of the club.  A bit like Dolly if you will.  I think part of that comes from this ongoing lvoe affair with Liverpool. 

I think much the same. Someone yesterday likened Gez to a consultant, doing one particular job dispassionately and with no thought to the greater good of the company. Maybe the whole Liverpool thing has been exaggerated, though, - I don't think he cares about much more than himself.

I don't think that many players or managers give much time to the history and tradition of the football clubs they represent.
Fortunately, most managers and players keep their traps shut.
Unfortunately managers like Houllier and players like Ireland don't.

[Bosco81]

When our injury crisis was at it's worst I thought Houllier did well not to blame that reason for the poor results, now the majority are back, he's still not coming out with too many excuses other than "it will be alright in the end".

Is the reason he is not making excuses because he's not really that bothered either way, I wonder who is having more sleepless nights, Houllier, the fans or the players, I think I already know the answer.

[Bad English]

It is very clear that the players and management at Villa Park need to bite the pillow while cutting the cheese. Furthermore, it is vital that they toss the salad while shunning those who lets the badgers loose.  Quimling must be banished from the dressing room and Ashley must be told he can no longer clear the custard whenever he feels fit. Only when they autograph the gusset while throwing a Woodbine down Nelson Road can we accept the arrival of the horse's handbrake.

[kippaxvilla2]

There's also another view I have and that is some manager's just don't get the ethos of a club. We have a manager in Houllier who I think fits that bill.  He doesn't get the heritage, history or the fabric of the club.  A bit like Dolly if you will.  I think part of that comes from this ongoing lvoe affair with Liverpool. 

I think much the same. Someone yesterday likened Gez to a consultant, doing one particular job dispassionately and with no thought to the greater good of the company. Maybe the whole Liverpool thing has been exaggerated, though, - I don't think he cares about much more than himself.

I don't think that many players or managers give much time to the history and tradition of the football clubs they represent.
Fortunately, most managers and players keep their traps shut.
Unfortunately managers like Houllier and players like Ireland don't.

Whilst you are probably right, compare and contrast Houlliers approach to that of Paul McGrath in his interview the other day.  He played for one of the biggest clubs in the world before joining Villa.  Yet in his interview he was still saying 'we are in trouble' as opposed to just talking in general terms about Villa - a guy who truly gets us.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

There's also another view I have and that is some manager's just don't get the ethos of a club. We have a manager in Houllier who I think fits that bill.  He doesn't get the heritage, history or the fabric of the club.  A bit like Dolly if you will.  I think part of that comes from this ongoing lvoe affair with Liverpool. 

I think much the same. Someone yesterday likened Gez to a consultant, doing one particular job dispassionately and with no thought to the greater good of the company. Maybe the whole Liverpool thing has been exaggerated, though, - I don't think he cares about much more than himself.

I don't think that many players or managers give much time to the history and tradition of the football clubs they represent.
Fortunately, most managers and players keep their traps shut.
Unfortunately managers like Houllier and players like Ireland don't.

Whilst you are probably right, compare and contrast Houlliers approach to that of Paul McGrath in his interview the other day.  He played for one of the biggest clubs in the world before joining Villa.  Yet in his interview he was still saying 'we are in trouble' as opposed to just talking in general terms about Villa - a guy who truly gets us.

Exactly. God bless er... God.

[villa `cross the mersey]

I saw the girlfriend of one of the current England squad in the car park up the Lickeys the other day, being shagged by a load of blokes. I asked what was going on and was told that they were dogging the wag.

Sorry, I will go for a long walk to think about the error of my ways.

Was it in the back of a Rover?

[myf]

Not one mention to his decision to field a weakened side for the Man City game.  Not one mention of his antics at Anfield.  Player problems or not he's still made some major errors.

[pauliewalnuts]

There's also another view I have and that is some manager's just don't get the ethos of a club. We have a manager in Houllier who I think fits that bill.  He doesn't get the heritage, history or the fabric of the club.  A bit like Dolly if you will.  I think part of that comes from this ongoing lvoe affair with Liverpool. 

I think much the same. Someone yesterday likened Gez to a consultant, doing one particular job dispassionately and with no thought to the greater good of the company. Maybe the whole Liverpool thing has been exaggerated, though, - I don't think he cares about much more than himself.

I think that is absolutely spot on.

I disagree about the Liverpool thing. I think people were very much entitled to be offended at that. I know I was.

I don't really care if he loves Liverpool or if he has their badge tattooed on his arse, none of that bothers me until the point at which he makes it public.

It was the same with the Man City line up. Maybe he thought we had no chance, maybe he was right, but that was one thing. To come out and state is quite so clearly in the media was pointless and daft, and just made it even worse.

I think that his inability to understand the nuances of things like that has contributed in large part to his current friendlessness.

Even Chris doesn't like him much, which takes some doing.

Oh, and just to add, I don't for a moment buy into this "must bleed claret and blue / let's get Martin Laursen in! / can only understand the club if you played for it" bullshit, either, but there are a great number of intermediate points between that extreme and acting like you're agency staff brought in to do maternity cover, which is what GH does.

[pauliewalnuts]

I would love to think the players are out to prove everyone wrong. Maybe we will catch a break and Newcastle won't try

On the bright side, Newcastle's form since the middle of January is even worse than ours.

[dave.woodhall]

When I said Liverpool I meant him having any affection for them, rather than what happened at Anfield.