Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[swiss1968]

Altho we were poor today we had 3 golden chances,the makoun header ,ash hitting the bar etc,bit unlucky today or just shite,and i agree about bent very quiet again doesn't get stuck in much ,a strange day all round with the booing and banner's .

[Lobsterboy]

Absolute and utter dog shit Houllier; what have you done to my club?

[holtepaul]

The game , The suituation . Houllier - three things

1. The game

Lets face it, one nil flattered us. That really should have been 3 or 4 we were woeful. In one way, I applaud Houllier for making a change after 20 mins as it clearly wasn't working but the bad thing - he couldn't see WHY it wasn't working. Wolves had a three man midfield, we had two that couldn't hold the ball. In the last few weeks our attacking threat has come from Walker and Delph (at LB) - today, because mid was outnumbered, Walker and Delph had to stay back. If Delph was coming on (although it should have been Pires as was proved, on five minutes and two open goals, he should have went to 3 centre midfield.

Young an utter waste of bloody time again. Bent, well you buy a goal scorer and you make him play like Emile Heskey !, not one ball was put on the floor to him anywhere near the box !

Oh sod it, I could go on and on - it was just bloody awful

2. The situation


I think we are down. We need 7 points. I cant see us getting them. We need 3 against Newc, 3 againsst Wgan and then one at either SWest Ham or West Brom - forget the rest, and if we dont get them - we are gone.

3. Houllier, I just dont know. I have heard today from a very very very reliabe source Dunne and Collins are not the only ones. Gabby is not a starter for a reason, and from what I have been told, and I am 100% that it is true, Villa are already negotiating with Newcastle. I wont say anymore. In one way, I think Houllier inherited so many issues he need a good 18 months to sort it. However, I then think he hasnt done himself any favours eith his decisions and the way he treats the fans.

So, I really dont know. However, I can understad fans chanting for him out, and I think he needs to hear it, coz all I can see is having his head in the sand thinking everything is OK - he needs to be reminded - it aint !,

[Phil from the upper holte]

Utterly disgraceful

I think that covers it

[mozza]

Two weeks ago I saw a more than decent performance at the Reebok when we
should have secured an away win and 3 valuable points -

Today we gifted a workmanlike Wolves team with their second away win, they
didn't have to excel or bust a gut to do it - they wanted it more simple as.

In between the two matches our team has had a successful team bonding exercise
which resulted in two senior players being fined two weeks wages. I wonder what
the scoreline would have been if the players hadn't bonded so well ?

Whilst I'm no expert in body language......it looks like the manager has 'lost a
significant section of the dressing room' and more disturbing several players didn't
appear to give their all for the shirt either

On a positive note Mr Houllier clearly likes the catering at Villa Park - when he
exited shortly before 7pm he was scoffing what appeared to be a cake, which
was presumably why he couldn't respond to a couple of reasonable questions from
the handful of supporters (Villa & Wolves) in the vicinity           

[l_mckay]

wernt at the game (thankfully) but from what my old chap said they were total shite!!! I really am concerned! we are in deep trouble!

[hawkeye]

The substitutions were madness, so we are a goal down and need to score, you need the ball to score, so lets take off our midfield player that does close down and win the ball and put his best mate Uncle Bobby on to saunter around the pitch, then lets take Albrighton off who was our most creative player and put Gabby a centre forward on the wing,

[sfx412]

The most dreadful thing today was treatment of Baker. I believe he was substituted for performance reasons. That shows very poor judgement by  the man in charge.  Result is that he wasted a sub and has probably ruined the youngster forever.

what Bollocks. He made an error and changed it, nothing wrong with that.

What should he have done kept him on and let Wolves have a free hand.

nice to see the wormtongues turning their malicious mouths from Houllier to Randy. Sometimes some Villa fans make me ashamed and sick to the stomach.

[hawkeye]

Houlier has turned out to be a remarkably bad appointment, The Chairman made a decision that he thought was in the best interest of Aston Villa, he now needs to make another one and quick

[villa1]

The most dreadful thing today was treatment of Baker. I believe he was substituted for performance reasons. That shows very poor judgement by  the man in charge.  Result is that he wasted a sub and has probably ruined the youngster forever.

what Bollocks. He made an error and changed it, nothing wrong with that.

What should he have done kept him on and let Wolves have a free hand.

nice to see the wormtongues turning their malicious mouths from Houllier to Randy. Sometimes some Villa fans make me ashamed and sick to the stomach.

I think what aftab is trying to say is that Houllier's mistake was playing Baker in the fjrst place and leaving Delph on the bench. He realised this and had to waste a sub to correct the situation.

[WikiVilla]

Baker didn't strike me as being any worse than the others, I assumed he'd picked up a knock ?

Makoun looks out of his depth and a poor signing IMO

[The Moose]

But why not move a centre-half, Baker, to his normal position, and play Delph instead of Herd, from the start?

[holtepaul]

I forgot to say that, apart from Ugo (which at least shows it may change with time) I cannot remember a player who has made a worse start to his Villa career.

Makoun looks absolutely shocking ! , in his first game people hailed his "one touch vision" we now know he panics when the ball is at his feet ! , he can't tackle (and nearly went off again today !( , he cant pass, he cant run

He is crap !

Yes, I'll give the "give him time to adjust" I know all that, but there is no denying, at the moment - HE IS CRAP !

[ozzjim]

I think ruining the youngster forever is just about the most melodromatic thing I have seen on here for a while and there is a fair old amount to chose from.

That change took guts to admit he was wrong with the selection IMO. The latter ones, I thought Pires deserved to come on, he was instrumental in our attacking play against Blackburn, but I though he should have started and not Makoun. Makoun walking back into the side worried me, the midfield has done well without him, and in his games so far we have looked a lot less like scoring with him in the side as opposed to Delph in the middle or Pires.

[WikiVilla]

But why not move a centre-half, Baker, to his normal position, and play Delph instead of Herd, from the start?

Don't disagree Moose, thats what a competent manager would have done