Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[WikiVilla]

Fans like Eric have an absolute right to choose not to go wile that clown is in charge. £41 for that shit today and an afternoon wasted

[olaftab]

I felt like I was in bloody Egypt in the Holte today with all the banners and uproar etc.

Anyone know what the banner in the North Stand Upper that was up mostly pre-game said? I could make out the words Houllier but that was it.

Put up by a chap in a flat cap about 20 yards to my right. It said "Houlier out" and he got lot of abuse when he was displaying it.

[spangley1812]

Just a minor thing but what was that time-out McCarthy managed to pull with five minutes of normal time to play.   The rules of football do not allow players to stop playing to take a drink.   The whole thing is designed to break up the momentum of the losing side.   Dowd just stood and watched them do it.   Not a word of complaint from our bench that I could see but then you would not have expected it would you.

It was whilst they swopped the linesman who had pulled a calf muscle

[Chipsticks]

I felt like I was in bloody Egypt in the Holte today with all the banners and uproar etc.

Anyone know what the banner in the North Stand Upper that was up mostly pre-game said? I could make out the words Houllier but that was it.

Put up by a chap in a flat cap about 20 yards to my right. It said "Houlier out" and he got lot of abuse when he was displaying it.

Got took down really early into the game, I assumed some stewards took it down like the mammoth one in the Holte?

[CJ]

Re the 'time out' - I was confused at the time but it transpired that the linesman on that side had got injured or spontaneously combusted or something so they had to get another one unpacked. Nothing to do with McCarthy other than he took the opportunity to give his players a drink and a chat

[mr woo]

Houllier has been dealt a shit hand ..... a shocking injury list, ill disipline and stroppy players caused through an overly relaxed training programme, coming in at an awful time, only having the January window to deal etc etc so am minded to cut him some slack in those respects.

However on and off the pitch he has time and time again proved that he is tactically inept, lacks passion, lacks a connection with the fans and has treated the cup which this club has held in high esteem, with complete distain.

The players are clearly not putting it in for him and although i feel that it is the players to blame and its far easier to change the manager and let the feckless fooking players win than it is to root out the bad apples.

On that basis Gerald my old son, its time to take a hike !!!

Well said Holtemeister, pretty much sums it up for me.

[Fin Feds Dad]

Linesman was injured - wolves players got a drink, spoke to their management and looked like they wanted to win.

Our lot, stood around, looking at the floor like they couldn't care less. 

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Senior players that lack professionalism and effort - young, hungry, exciting players shipped out to other clubs.
A manager and coaching staff that appear to be unable to do anything productive (Sid Cowans aside)
A chairman/owner that dithers.

I'm looking forward to going to away trips to Preston, Bristol City and Ipswich next season.

[olaftab]

Just a minor thing but what was that time-out McCarthy managed to pull with five minutes of normal time to play.   The rules of football do not allow players to stop playing to take a drink.   The whole thing is designed to break up the momentum of the losing side.   Dowd just stood and watched them do it.   Not a word of complaint from our bench that I could see but then you would not have expected it would you.

It was whilst they swopped the linesman who had pulled a calf muscle

Yes it was when the linesman got injured however you really are stretching it a bit by saying anyone else could have disturbed our momentum today. We managed to do that all by ourselves.

[brian green]

Thanks for that explanation lads.   That makes me even angrier because McCarthy had the enthusiasm and savvy to talk to his players and lubricate them while our team who desperately needed a pep talk to try to salvage something from the game were allowed to stand about.

[PeterWithesShin]

Re the 'time out' - I was confused at the time but it transpired that the linesman on that side had got injured or spontaneously combusted or something so they had to get another one unpacked. Nothing to do with McCarthy other than he took the opportunity to give his players a drink and a chat

One manager was smart enough to use the time as a benefit to his side. One manager wasn't.

[rutski]

Re the 'time out' - I was confused at the time but it transpired that the linesman on that side had got injured or spontaneously combusted or something so they had to get another one unpacked. Nothing to do with McCarthy other than he took the opportunity to give his players a drink and a chat

One manager was smart enough to use the time as a benefit to his side. One manager wasn't.

what would you have done?

[mr woo]

Re the 'time out' - I was confused at the time but it transpired that the linesman on that side had got injured or spontaneously combusted or something so they had to get another one unpacked. Nothing to do with McCarthy other than he took the opportunity to give his players a drink and a chat

One manager was smart enough to use the time as a benefit to his side. One manager wasn't.

Or one manager lacks so much rapport with his players they wouldn't listen to him anyway, so why bother relaying instructions?

[mikeb1982]

If we do find ourselves relegated and in big debt will some people still be singing randys praises? I remember ridsdale was lauded when spending the cash to chase the dream at Leeds and we all know how that turned out - are we about to be the next Leeds?

If we do go down we're more likely to do a Leeds than a Newcastle - we'll lose our best players and effectively have a reserve team go from the reserve league to a 50 game season in the championship

I think if we go down we might be stuck with a few big earning players like Dunne, Warnock and Beye who no one else would touch with a barge pole. Meanwhile our young players who we want to keep the Albrightons, Bannans etc would get moves to lower premiership clubs leaving us without many good players and in a tricky situation financially. Basically the club fucked by the mismanagement of the past two managers.

I can't see us being stuck with the likes of Dunne, he and Collins are on £50k a week (judging by their fines) and we'll be financially fucked and need to get rid of them at any price. I would hope young players like albrighton would honour their contracts and stay to help get us back up. Let's just hope we don't have to worry about it....

[leylandalbion]

I have always during the 32 years of being a die hard villa fan stuck by the team the manager and the chair,  however enough is enough,  injurys aside Ged has a team that is full of internationals - not just u21s or obsure nations but full England internationals.  He has managed to mature them into a teams that is looking up at Stoke, Fulham...He must depart, we must keep the crop of talent we have, and we will move forward.  My 6 year old shows more passion than Ged - and know that Gabby is not a winger.  Cock off now