Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[luke25]

I've heard two interviews now, one with Houllier and one with Downing and both have said we played well, we were unlucky and we deserved to atleast get a point, are these imbiciles walking round with there heads buried firmly up there arse's? We did'nt play well at all, Wolves were well worth there win, its spouting crap like this that winds me up almost as much as the performance, its like they don't realise just how firmly were in the shit, there's a relaxed air about them that everything will be OK when it certainly won't unless something major changes

[olaftab]

It was a lovely day when I left home. Managed to find a parking place as soon as I hit Upper Sutton Street. Magic I thought this is going to be a good  day. Decided to take a stroll through the park. Aston Park was draped in spring sunshine. We saw many games of cricket going on as we walked along Aston Hall looking splendid  through the trees. Walking down hill towards the ground felt vey confident. The only disappointment was not to see Legion selling H&V in his usual spot!
What could wrong?
A clueless team managed by a clueless Manger of course...I had forgotten!

We surrendered the FA Cup and got zilch out of two games we have played. I HATE HIM FOR RUINING MY LIFE.

The walk back was swift and awful.

[Rigadon]

Difficult to describe just how desperate the atmosphere was today.  Similarly inept as the Sunderland game but (if it's possible) with less fight.  Can't remember us winning one 50/50.  In fact, seeing Downing slow down to avoid competing for a loose ball made my piss boil.  Not that he was alone in being less than committed. 

A couple of them look like they're halfway out of the door to me and the rest know it.  Not one single player was even half-way decent today.   Houllier was negligent in keeping with the 4-5-1.  I don't like to say it but he needs to be sacked now - it's our only chance of staying up.

[WikiVilla]

Just back from the match
I'm going for a walk before I go in to print

[oxoneil]

Just seen Villa are 13/2 to go down, that has to be worth a punt. Should be way shorter surely...

[The Moose]

I walked it home to try and calm down. Didn't work.

[Blackcountry Villa]

Houllier is fucking clueless but the players are just as much to blame. They're either shit, don't want to play for him, or both.

Ashley Young is crap and a little ******, just like i've been saying for the past 2 seasons. The most overrated player i've ever seen bar none, but not only that he's a little fanny. I actually hate him.

The problem we have now is changing the manager this late won't do any good, but if we keep him i think we'll go down. Him and the team have lost the fans, and they have no spirit, fight, grit, determination or quality. Last two games Arsenal away and Liverpool at home, we won't get any points out of those so if we aren't safe before those we're doomed.

[nick harper]

I have stood by Houllier up to now but I'm now beginning to fear that we don't have the fight to get out of this. He won't sack him - it's far to late to do that.

Friedel - did ok. No chance with the goal.
Walker - still one of our biggest threats but not much came off for him.
Baker-looked out of his depth to be honest.
Culler - should stay in for the rest of the season.
Herd - can hold his head up.
Reo-Coker - our only leader, baffling substitution.
Makoun - looked off the pace. Has been out for a month and it showed.
Young - petulant and ineffective. Should have scored.
Downing - only one who made anything happen.
Bent - too isolated and never threatened.
Albrighton- had no problem with him coming off as he didn't produce much but Agbonlahor should have been alongside Bent.
Delph - needed his energy in midfield.
Pires - Wolves closing down made him ineffective.
Agbonlahor - he hasn't got a future under Houllier.

Fair play to Wolves. They don't have fraction of the talent in our side but they have spirit in spades.

[Percy McCarthy]

It's so annoying. If we were safe we could be throwing games towards the end to make sure Small Heath go down. Saying that Wigan, West Brom and West Ham will probably beat us anyway, so it looks like we're both going.

[CJ]

Just back. Still fuming.  Haven't read rest of thread but I would imagine that - just like at the ground - there's lots of calls for Houllier to go. I've mainly stood by him so far but the Man City surrender dented my confidence, and the events this week both on and off the pitch have put me firmly in the 'time for him to go' camp. There is no leadership on or off the pitch and I think some of his substitutions today were pretty bizarre.  I agreed with taking Baker off - frankly he was having a 'mare - but to take NRC off for Pires,and Albrighton off for Gabby (who he put on the wing) prompted me to feel he's lost the plot, and the performance from the team (after a really good bonding session!) suggests he's lost the dressing room.

We desperately needed to win that today.  Wolves hadn't beaten us for over 30 years but there was just a total lack of drive, and I really don't think Houllier can instil the passion and fight we need to stay up. I am now convinced we will get relegated.

I can just hear his end of season press interview now - 'well of course it is very sad that we are no longer in the top division, but if we had to get relegated at least I am happy that it was a great club like Liverpool that sealed our feat'

[Oscar Arce]

Garbage no fight no passion, I said on here we'd lose, people said I was mad, well believe it now folks, we are going to get relegated, this clown is taking us into the Championship!
Aside from his team having not one leader in it, he decided to play chris herd, a midfield player, at centre half, whilst ignoring Beye and Warnock, two experienced Premiership defenders, but no of course not, he has banished them to obscurity.
wether they are good enough or not is another matter, but he has just said in his interview that 'we lacked experience', and he has just put his own personal vendettas against two players who obviously dissagree with him, before the team, the club and the fans.
Also his substitution of Albrighton, the only player who was consistently putting crosses into the box, crosses that stopped once Agbonlahor came on.
He replaced reo-Coker, who was consistently breaking up play and getting his foot in, with Pires, leaving Makoun on, when he was today sadly off the pace.
And why did he take off Baker ? The lad must wonder whether he is coming or going, Houllier just seems to do the exact opposite of the obvious, just to make a point that he is a tactical genius, which he is not.
And what happened to him once the fans chanted 'you don't know what you're doing' ? He retreated into his dugout even further.
i have been saying since the Liverpool game (he should have gone then) that he is a dead man walking, the trouble is he's going to take us down with him.
Thank you Mr. Houllier, for ruining my week, and my love of aston Villa which i am beginning to question having supported since 1968, I don't think I've ever seen a more gutless, spineless eleven and manager since Tommy Cummings.
I am now off to get seriously pissed, thanks Gerard.

[charleeco7]

Terrible. Can't pass to each other and just no fight.
Not sure if it's been mentioned on here but comes to something when young has to tell gabby that they are swapping and he's going on the wing. (which is how it should be). I certainly didn't see the bench telling them to do it, so looks like players even think he's clueless.

[TonyD]

Just back. Still fuming.  Haven't read rest of thread but I would imagine that - just like at the ground - there's lots of calls for Houllier to go. I've mainly stood by him so far but the Man City surrender dented my confidence, and the events this week both on and off the pitch have put me firmly in the 'time for him to go' camp. There is no leadership on or off the pitch and I think some of his substitutions today were pretty bizarre.  I agreed with taking Baker off - frankly he was having a 'mare - but to take NRC off for Pires,and Albrighton off for Gabby (who he put on the wing) prompted me to feel he's lost the plot, and the performance from the team (after a really good bonding session!) suggests he's lost the dressing room.

We desperately needed to win that today.  Wolves hadn't beaten us for over 30 years but there was just a total lack of drive, and I really don't think Houllier can instil the passion and fight we need to stay up. I am now convinced we will get relegated.

I can just hear his end of season press interview now - 'well of course it is very sad that we are no longer in the top division, but if we had to get relegated at least I am happy that it was a great club like Liverpool that sealed our feat'

If he takes us down he will probably say something like "I cannot understand why they making so much fuss"

[PaulTheVillan]

I have stood by Houllier up to now but I'm now beginning to fear that we don't have the fight to get out of this. He won't sack him - it's far to late to do that.

Friedel - did ok. No chance with the goal.
Walker - still one of our biggest threats but not much came off for him.
Baker-looked out of his depth to be honest.
Culler - should stay in for the rest of the season.
Herd - can hold his head up.
Reo-Coker - our only leader, baffling substitution.
Makoun - looked off the pace. Has been out for a month and it showed.
Young - petulant and ineffective. Should have scored.
Downing - only one who made anything happen.
Bent - too isolated and never threatened.
Albrighton- had no problem with him coming off as he didn't produce much but Agbonlahor should have been alongside Bent.
Delph - needed his energy in midfield.
Pires - Wolves closing down made him ineffective.
Agbonlahor - he hasn't got a future under Houllier.

Fair play to Wolves. They don't have fraction of the talent in our side but they have spirit in spades.

I would pretty much go along with this.

Wolves wanted the win more.

[The Situation]

It's so annoying. If we were safe we could be throwing games towards the end to make sure Small Heath go down. Saying that Wigan, West Brom and West Ham will probably beat us anyway, so it looks like we're both going.

Lol exactly.

If we'd won today I'd be very confident in us staying up. I'm not confident now, its the first time I'm genuinely very worried and concerned.