Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[damon loves JT]

I know things are bad when the post match thread is polite and rational like this

[NeilH]

I honestly believe the club is utterly paralysed right now. They have tried every possible option to try to rectify problems, buy a big name player, send the players off for team building, back the boss, appease the fans with offers and deals, yet here we are again.
It is unquestionable to me that he has lost the dressing room and the players don't want to play for either him or his sidekick, but at the same time the club has stated that they will back him no matter what, which means that we are now stuck with him in the misguided belief that he will turn it around and because deep down the management are utterly fearful and afraid to make a decision. Paralysis is gripping the board.
What makes this even worse is that if we do go down, we will go into financial meltdown unless we hold a fire sale of players. Either way, unless something drastic happens right now, I am frankly cacking myself.

[boboonthecorner]

Just back for the game in time to see Houliers Sky interview nonsense.
Houllier out- that is all.

Well it looks like he isn't going to resign so Randy will sack him tonight. I'm 100% confident of this...........

[Risso]

This is all Lerner's fault. A fool and his money are soon parted.

[ez]

Sticking with Houllier is accepting relegation

[KevinGage]

We have had so much time and so many chances to get out of the shit. And yet, here we are. Worse than ever.

That's the thing. We're actually getting worse. Not better, not "kind of the same", but deteriorating.

The players clearly don't want him there, as bad as we sometimes were under O'Neill, the vast majority of the time the players put everything they had in to the game, you could criticise their ability but never their effort. Now we don't even bother, and as much as I dislike Houllier, I detest the players even more. Whatever's going on, whatever their relationship with the manager, they should put the effort in. The lot of them can fuck off.

That's the thing, I don't recall any player in the midst of our struggles this year even going the token route of "all the lads are behind the gaffer" schtick. Not necessarily enough on it's own to extrapolate that they aren't playing for him, true. But the performances give a fair degree of certainty to that.

Genuinely not sure which way I'd go, thoughts of Allardyce's expansive brand of 'assault the keeper and pile in,' on any kind of medium> longterm basis make me want to cry. And make no mistake, he wouldn't come here for just a few games, he'd want a 2/3 year deal. But we may be entering lesser of two evils territory.

FWIW, I'd be tempted to give Kevin Mac the gig on a short term basis. The players might at least play for him. If we stay up we'd have the summer to secure a decent long term appointment. If we go down, it will hardly be his fault.

[eastie]

Risso you are right in a way, randy must hold up his hands and say enough is enough- we are in the shit and need a man who can get the players motivated - big Sam for 8 games ?

Tonight I think we have reached new depths and looking at his press conference he looks as if he couldn't inspire anyone - what a mess!

[sfx412]

This is all Lerner's fault. A fool and his money are soon parted.

interesting idea

do you suggest we call for his exit

[Toronto Villa]

Today was awful. No glossing over that. I'm not sure what the answer is, but people need stop with suggesting fucking Allardyce. I get the desperate times bit, but he woudn't come for 8 games. He'd want a long term deal and we'd end up looking and playing like Blackburn. I get the knives being out for Houllier, but FFS not Allardyce or any other long ball, elbows in your face tosser football please.

I posted our run-in on another thread compared to the others. I know things look bleak now, but there are other teams that are in just as much bother. The fact that the bottom two teams won today has made it incredibly tight, and everyone's now in the mix and none of us are safe.

[Steve R]

We have had so much time and so many chances to get out of the shit.
...

Oddly enough, whilst watching the game today on a dodgy stream, I kept getting the uncomfortable feeling I'd tuned into a scheissmovie by mistake.

[JJ-AV]

Kevin Mac?

[Tom_Mc9?]

What about that Bolton bloke? He's doing alright, isn't he?

[The Left Side]

There are not going to sack him, they'll just hope we get out of this... personally i'd be on the phone to Chris Hughton asap.

[garyfouroaks]

This is all Lerner's fault. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Very harsh, and a crude insult to a man who has had a good go at helping our club. You should know better.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I always say give a Manager 3 seasons, but wherever we we end up (And I think we're going down) he's got to go.

Just heard him on WM

1. He blames a hangover from the Bolton game on losing
2. He says we needed goals, hence bringing Gabby on (On the fucking wing)
3. He thinks we were unlucky today

Clueless and delusional.