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Offline WikiVilla

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #75 on: March 16, 2011, 04:03:51 PM »
I think after we've hammered Wolves, threads like this will be less common
No way are we going to "hammer" Wolves. They were excellent against spurs. And have great fight back mentality, and with our defence being how it has been this will be a battle .......

3-1, we look good going forward, assuming we can field some proper defenders that is

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2011, 04:04:31 PM »
I think after we've hammered Wolves, threads like this will be less common
Not so sure, I would imagine the Wolves forwards (and central defenders) have been walking round with semis on this week, partially engorged at the mouth watering prospect of scoring goals against our gossamer thin defence.

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2011, 04:05:19 PM »
Secondly, I wonder how late into a season a manager has been sacked? Would it really be suicidal to sack a manager if the hypothetical situation occurred. How else could the morale be lifted?

Wimbledon sacked Egil Olsen in 2000 with two games left of the season. They went down.

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2011, 04:10:33 PM »
As soon as we're mathematically safe we should get rid so the next man gets a game or two to assess some of the players before a busy summer.

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2011, 04:13:09 PM »
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I think after we've hammered Wolves, threads like this will be less common
Not so sure, I would imagine the Wolves forwards (and central defenders) have been walking round with semis on this week, partially engorged at the mouth watering prospect of scoring goals against our gossamer thin defence.

They have the worst away record in the league, truly shit. Our defensive record at home isn't bad. After the result at Bolton we have to be wary but we are in danger of building this up to be more than it is.

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2011, 04:14:11 PM »
A couple of things spring to mind having read the thread

This knee jerk reaction phrase that gets used very often on this site. I notice however that it is only used against posters who voice their dissatisfaction/overreaction after losing a game.
Could the term "knee jerk reaction" also be used against posters who talk about the possibility of getting 6th or qualifying for Europe, say as they did after our 4-1 win over Blackburn?

Secondly, I wonder how late into a season a manager has been sacked? Would it really be suicidal to sack a manager if the hypothetical situation occurred. How else could the morale be lifted?

Was Kinnear sacked or was it another health scare? I can't quite recall, but Shearer took on the Toon job in March/ April 2009.

Usually when these discussions come about any thoughts of sacking a manager draw instant comparisons with Newcastle, the kings of knee jerk short-term thinking. Yet we haven't sacked a manager for 17 years, so I'm not sure where that comes from. We're not exactly in the habit of doing so.

The hope is that we can scratch out a win on Saturday and GH at least has enough about him to maintain survival this year. Come the summer though, all options are on the table.  Including his departure.


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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #81 on: March 16, 2011, 04:16:19 PM »
Yes. There's no way in hell Gerard is the man to take us forward. Excuses get him so far, but results fall on his head and they don't lie. Decision he's made on the pitch have left fans (and evidently players) utterly bewildered, so there's only so much blame that can fall on O Neill's squad, injuries etc.

Houlliers done some good I'll admit, but it's something he could do as a DOF. I think in terms of premier league management, he's past it and we're not the right club for him either. We need a younger manager, fresher, and someone who's more suited to our style. I'm sorry, it may have been a case in the past, but for as long as I've watched Villa, we've never been the sort of cultured footballing, tippy tappy team that Houllier wants us to be. Largely we build from the back, or play high tempo. We have played good football in the past, for sure, but always with vigour and directness. Particularly under BFR, BL, and also O Neill's counter attack specialist in 07.08 when we had one of the best attacking records in the top flight.

Thing is too, Houllier was never about attractive football at Liverpool. It was very defensive and very dour. That was his speciality and he's moved away from what bought him success in this country. He just hasn't really got it in him any more.

Get rid in the summer. In all honesty though, I suspect he'll be kept on, and given benefit of a summer window.

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #82 on: March 16, 2011, 04:18:08 PM »
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I think after we've hammered Wolves, threads like this will be less common
Not so sure, I would imagine the Wolves forwards (and central defenders) have been walking round with semis on this week, partially engorged at the mouth watering prospect of scoring goals against our gossamer thin defence.

They have the worst away record in the league, truly shit. Our defensive record at home isn't bad. After the result at Bolton we have to be wary but we are in danger of building this up to be more than it is.
Let's not forget the Derby factor Chris, teams in the Midlands always bust a gut against us.
If they try to nulify us with a blast of Dog shit style anti-football, a result will be difficult.

Look at the table, there is very little between us.

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #83 on: March 16, 2011, 04:20:32 PM »
As soon as we're mathematically safe we should get rid so the next man gets a game or two to assess some of the players before a busy summer.
Can't see that happening to be honest, junxs.  If we stay in the PL I think Randy will give him the summer to get rid of the deadwood and shit stirrers, as well as losing Ash, and get some of his own players in. Think he will then be given til at least Christmas, and if it's working - OK - if not, get rid then.  Think the only way he'd be sacked in the summer is if we get relegated

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #84 on: March 16, 2011, 04:27:24 PM »
would we have to sack him if we get relegated or might he resign - he seems quite an honourable chap!

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #85 on: March 16, 2011, 04:28:58 PM »
Mark, I agree it will be a battle, particularly with it being a (sort of) derby, but they have only won once away all season and lost 11. We shouldn't build it up to be more than it is.

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #86 on: March 16, 2011, 04:30:17 PM »
would we have to sack him if we get relegated or might he resign - he seems quite an honourable chap!
I think they'd shunt him into the VMF restaurant to be head waiter, making snooty remarks to the customers to give it that authentic French atmosphere.

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #87 on: March 16, 2011, 04:31:47 PM »
Mark, I agree it will be a battle, particularly with it being a (sort of) derby, but they have only won once away all season and lost 11. We shouldn't build it up to be more than it is.
I appreciate that Wolves are shit away from home Chris, it's just hard to build up any confidence with our defence performing like an amateur version of 'Dawn of the dead.'

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #88 on: March 16, 2011, 04:33:24 PM »
Lets presume he keeps us up, but we stay more or less where we are now in the table.

Moyes or similar other strong candidate becomes available in the summer.

That could be an interesting board meeting....

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Re: Will GH last the season?
« Reply #89 on: March 16, 2011, 04:33:36 PM »
we've never been the sort of cultured footballing, tippy tappy team that Houllier wants us to be.

Apart from the fact that this phrase is pathetic and anyone who uses it should be forced to watch Stoke v Allardyce-era Bolton for ever, God forbid we should have a manager who wants to play decent football.

 


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