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Author Topic: Villa players in drunken bust up  (Read 120418 times)

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #390 on: March 17, 2011, 10:52:47 AM »
DO NOT bloody stick him with the kids!!!
Jesus H Christ, man. You want HIS attitude rubbing off? No way.
Stick him on toilet cleaning duties.

Agreed. The reserves have lost three on the trot since Beye and Warnock started playing for them. When was the last time that happened?

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #391 on: March 17, 2011, 12:06:19 PM »
Everyone I know is working longer hours for the same money and they arn't on 2.5 a year. Sorry Peter don't agree with your argument at all, they have no right to question the way they are trained, if they don't like it ask for a transfer.

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #392 on: March 17, 2011, 12:29:22 PM »
There are ways of asking and ways of asking

If that fat c*** Dunne was unhappy with having to run more - (a bit surprising for a professional athelete but there you go) he only had to have a quite word with the coaching staff

I wish they would sack the pair of them although it wont happen.

Surely thay must have a clause in their contract regarding gross misconduct, I'm sure Wigan terminated Marlon kings contract when he got sent to prison.

However, knowing todays contracts if they are guilty of gross misconduct they get a pay rise

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #393 on: March 17, 2011, 03:57:46 PM »

interesting article on mirror website-

Champneys have generously agreed to pick up the bill for repairs to furniture damaged during Richard Dunne and James Collins' controversial drinking session.

But their ill-advised boozing bender, which led to a stormy confrontation with coach Gordon Cowans and club staff, may still end up totaling hundreds of thousands of pounds in fines.

And I fear the actual cost to Aston Villa could be much greater, with the club's Premier League status in jeopardy.

Villa are just two points off the relegation zone ahead of Saturday's crunch visit by fellow strugglers Wolves.

But it is clear some of the divisions, splits and rows in the camp which dogged the early days of Gerard Houllier's reign have resurfaced despite him bombing out misfits like John Carew and Stephen Ireland in January.

And there surely cannot be a worse time for any club to be fighting internal strife than during a relegation run-in.

Now, I am aware that some Villa fans are very unhappy with the press and think we are all making Dunne and Collins' drinking session out to be a much bigger issue than it is.

Granted, most Brits love a few drinks, but Villa's response - involving their in-house lawyer and Human Resources department and trying to fine the players more than the PFA's recommended two-week sanctions - shows just how seriously the club are taking it.

And surely fans can appreciate the gravity of the situation when two senior players, who have both captained the club in the last 12 months, flout rules and show a complete lack of respect for the management.

For starters, what kind of example is that to set Villa's very young squad?

At the moment, the likes of Marc Albrighton, Ciaran Clark, Nathan Delfouneso and co have been model young pros.

But the club do not want them to start believing this sort of behaviour by Dunne and Collins is acceptable.

The pair were allowed a few drinks at Champneys Spa last week, as first reported by MirrorFootball last week , but getting totally wrecked while representing the club on a bonding trip and slagging off the manager and his staff - while knocking over a dining room dividing screen in the process - shows a complete lack of respect for everything and everyone connected with Villa.



Their actions simply cannot be tolerated and that is why Villa are so furious.

If Dunne and Collins went unpunished it would encourage total anarchy at the club - and all footballers tend to take a few liberties anyway.

So if fans want to blame the press for reporting this story, then I suggest any grievances would be better channeled by urging Messrs Dunne and Collins to start giving better value for money on and off the pitch.

Dunne is paid £53,000-a-week, which is more than most people collect in a year, and Collins got a big pay-rise to leave West Ham.

It all contributes to the huge £80million annual wage bill Villa are left with following former manager Martin O'Neill's spending spree, so relegation would be an absolute financial disaster.

If senior players are going to slaughter the boss behind his back and undermine him, then it is clearly not going to help results and unify the dressing room behind Houllier, which is what the club needs right now.

Dunne was outstanding last season following his £5million move from Manchester City, but his form has been poor this season and he has not looked fully fit to me.

So I would have thought supporters would want a few answers. I wrote in December that I thought something was up with Dunne when I first heard he liked a drink.

Now this sorry episode has occurred and the locally-based press are not merely using it as a stick to beat Villa for a laugh.

Houllier has actually won a lot of friends in the press for his admirable stance in trying to rebuild Villa by changing the whole working environment for players and demanding more from them - such as living near the club and training harder .

And I actually think his tough stance over this latest misdemeanour is admirable.

But thrusting Dunne and Collins into a legal row against the club is a dangerous decision at this late stage of the season.

Personally, I am not sure the pair will be either considered or picked to play for Villa at the moment - or would want to.

As it happens, they are both currently injured, but Villa have a worrying lack of options in defence anyway due to various ailments, suspensions and Houllier's freezing out of Habib Beye and Stephen Warnock.

So the Dunne and Collins incident is even more untimely, and that's another reason their behaviour is so outrageous and surely fit to be both highlighted and condemned



Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/james-nursey/Why-the-true-cost-of-Richard-Dunne-and-James-Collins-boozy-antics-could-be-Aston-Villa-s-place-in-the-Premier-League-

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #394 on: March 17, 2011, 04:22:40 PM »
Is it me or have The Mirror made a bigger fuss about this than any of the other papers. I see Mr Nursey even managed to get his 'opinion' across on WM the other night.

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #395 on: March 17, 2011, 04:32:22 PM »
My guess is the club have recently opened up the communication lines with the press and James Nursey is just taking advantage of it, what with Villa being on his list. The reporting from the Mirror has been the best it's been for a long time, Villa wise. No complaints here.

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #396 on: March 17, 2011, 04:45:07 PM »
Not sure but Champneys may have an angle here also, just keep that in mind

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #397 on: March 17, 2011, 05:36:48 PM »
SSN-Reporting AVFC have disciplined players don't know what yet though

Offline exigo

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #398 on: March 17, 2011, 05:41:36 PM »
From @AVFC official twitter feed:

Gerard Houllier reveals Richard Dunne and James Collins disciplined. Manager happy club have acted "quickly and strongly."

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #399 on: March 17, 2011, 05:47:32 PM »
Fined two weeks wages and a final warning is my guess.

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #400 on: March 17, 2011, 06:31:44 PM »
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Villa duo disciplined for spa spat

(UKPA) – 24 minutes ago

The Aston Villa duo of James Collins and Richard Dunne have been disciplined after being involved in a row with coaching staff during a team bonding session.

Villa manager Gerard Houllier confirmed the club have "reacted strongly" to the behaviour of Dunne and his central defensive partner Collins at a health spa in Leicestershire last week.

The pair have had to explain their actions at club disciplinary panels during the past 48 hours although Houllier was not directly involved.

Villa are also not confirming the exact nature of the punishment handed out to Dunne and Collins.

Houllier said: "There was no fracas, but Dunne and Collins have been disciplined and this is all I can say on the matter.

"The club has reacted strongly and quickly, and now we move on to what is most important for us, the game against Wolverhampton at the weekend.

"It was dealt with quickly and strongly by the club but also internally, but I am not going into details.

"I am not going to talk specifically about what happened in this incident. That's it."

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #401 on: March 17, 2011, 06:47:40 PM »
So according to Nursey there are divisions, splits and rows in the Villa camp. I'm just glad he never found out about the schisms, factions, fissures, rifts and disagreements

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #402 on: March 17, 2011, 07:26:33 PM »
Thank goodness he did not notice that it happened at an event planned to bond, unite, consolidate, join and coalesce the players.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2011, 08:32:01 PM by brian green »

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #403 on: March 17, 2011, 07:32:48 PM »
Sad to say Brian, damon is guilty of empiricist reductionism in his analysis, having no grasp of the dialectical method.


Or else he hasn't taken enough of the right drugs.

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Re: Villa players in drunken bust up
« Reply #404 on: March 17, 2011, 07:42:36 PM »
Sad to say Brian, damon is guilty of empiricist reductionism in his analysis, having no grasp of the dialectical method.


Or else he hasn't taken enough of the right drugs.

^^ this?

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^^ THIS!!

 


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