Villa players in drunken bust up

[hawkeye]

There's one man who has to take the blame for this piss up and that's the gaffer.If he had bothered putting out a first full team against man city,we probably would'nt be in this mess.If he had given any thought to the club, these players should have been preparing for the Reading cup tie and not some piss up down the road.


Sad but true
                                           

[Dave]

Because had we picked Young and Downing instead of Delfouneso and Bannan we were as good as in the next round were we?

We should have tried a bit harder to win the game the above post is just daft.

[Ian.]

It's ridiculous how anyone can blame the management in this incident. Houllier might have made many mistakes but to throw this at him is madness.
Some of these lazy, childish, useless, overpaid pricks need to show some respect to the fans, club and management.

[hawkeye]

So who is in charge of moral, who is in charge of team affairs, who is it that sets the agenda and strategy for games?
So we duck out of the cup and arrange some paint balling and a piss up, fantastic leadership.

[LeeB]

It's makes me laugh how those determined to lay the blame for everything at Houlliers' feet are effectively absolving the players, senior, experienced and well paid ones at that, of any responsibilty.

You take that approach to running any team, Sunday morning through to Premier League, and see how far it gets you.

[damon loves JT]

I blame supertom for wearing his girlfriend's knickers to go to Lidl. He has breached the space-time continuum.

[LeeB]

So who is in charge of moral, who is in charge of team affairs, who is it that sets the agenda and strategy for games?
So we duck out of the cup and arrange some paint balling and a piss up, fantastic leadership.

You can set whatever agenda you like, if the players you are stuck with have their own, you're going to struggle.

The cup debacle is entirely seperate, and I'm fairly sure that a 'piss up' was not the on the agenda.

[Dave]

So who is in charge of moral, who is in charge of team affairs, who is it that sets the agenda and strategy for games?
So we duck out of the cup and arrange some paint balling and a piss up, fantastic leadership.

Yeah, he practically forced Collins and Dunne to act like dicks.

It's not like they should shoulder any responsibilty at all not to get paralytic and throw members of the coaching staff around a restaurant.

[ozzjim]

SO a club legend gets abused by a fat, over paid highly unproffessional, out f form waster and it is the managers fault for not pickung Young, Downing and Walker away at Man City who would have been odds on to beat us anyway? I have read it all. Some people are so determined to blame Houllier for anything it is rediculous.

They are grown men. The club should have em by their curlies.

[hawkeye]

i was taught something very early in  my career that has held true ever since.
If you want to know why a section, team, department, division, organisation, company is performing or not performing, look straight at the person at the top of that.
That is the answer it has allways been the answer.

[Dave]

i was taught something very early in  my career that has held true ever since.
If you want to know why a section, team, department, division, organisation, company is performing or not performing, look straight at the person at the top of that.
That is the answer it has allways been the answer.

Were you also taught that if two team members get into a fight on a night out then their manager should take all the blame for it?

[hawkeye]

i was taught something very early in  my career that has held true ever since.
If you want to know why a section, team, department, division, organisation, company is performing or not performing, look straight at the person at the top of that.
That is the answer it has allways been the answer.

Were you also taught that if two team members get into a fight on a night out then their manager should take all the blame for it?

i was taught that i should take resonsibility for it

[Dave]

i was taught something very early in  my career that has held true ever since.
If you want to know why a section, team, department, division, organisation, company is performing or not performing, look straight at the person at the top of that.
That is the answer it has allways been the answer.

Were you also taught that if two team members get into a fight on a night out then their manager should take all the blame for it?

i was taught that i should take resonsibility for it

With all due respect, you received some pretty shit training then.

[Risso]

Dunne and Collins are adults- they were trusted but threw that trust back into the staffs faces and could not control themselves- they have nobody to blame but themselves!

Unless of course, Dunne has a deep rooted alcohol based illness in which case leaving him in a bar all day then putting a free bar on in the evening isn't a very wise course of action.

[LeeB]

i was taught something very early in  my career that has held true ever since.
If you want to know why a section, team, department, division, organisation, company is performing or not performing, look straight at the person at the top of that.
That is the answer it has allways been the answer.

Why does every ****** these days think that some simple business principle can be employed lock, stock and barrel across every facet of life?