Villa players in drunken bust up

[pauliewalnuts]

Piss poor management / leadership skills. Drags them all out to Leicester for a 2 day bonding session, Yet GH & GMc see it better that they F**k off halfway through to watch Tottenham

Very "them & us" approach, Houllier needs the support of the players yet he seems to do little to gain any

Strange strange man

It's hardly like a football version of the McCanns is it? Going to London for a few hours to watch a football match?

I agree, there are plenty of things GH deserves criticism for, but some of the sticks people are using to beat him at the moment are over the top and a bit melodramatic to say the least.

[The Left Side]

Friedel - Pina Colada (Its the funky shirt)
Walker - Just some crisps please.
Collins - Ginger beer... and 14 pints of Vodka.
Dunne - 5 pints of guinness, kebab, then 10 pints of guinness
Warnock - Bitter and its never his round.
Makoun - Brandy, by the fireside in a some quality knitwear.
Delph - WKD and terps.
Reo Coker - Coke.
Clark - Shandy and 2 bob for the space invaders. Stay where we can see ya!
Cuellar - Rioja.
Ashley - Gin and juice.
Downing - Mild.
Petrov - Half a crab juice.
Albrighton - Red Bull and Red Bull.
Gabby - Milk.
Heskey - WD40.
Bent - Typhoo.

Selected others:
Robin van Persie - Tonic water for me, a Rohypnol and Ketamine spritzer for the lady.
Robin van Persie - She's a big lass, make it a double.

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[Merv]

GH is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, seems to me. On one hand he alienates some senior pros by putting new rules into practice - cutting days off, instructing them to move closer to the club (or at least, not to live in Lancashire) - and when he does allow them some down time, two of his senior players let him down like that.

I would have found it stranger if Houllier had been leading the drinking session, no problem with him going to watch the Spurs game and allowing players some space. The whole thing was for them, after all.

[WikiVilla]

Point is, maybe Houllier / Mcallister need to bond a bit with the players, its not just about players bonding
The management needs a healthy distance yes, but I think GH is just too distant from this set of players.

[Risso]

GH is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, seems to me. On one hand he alienates some senior pros by putting new rules into practice - cutting days off, instructing them to move closer to the club (or at least, not to live in Lancashire) - and when he does allow them some down time, two of his senior players let him down like that.

He should know by now which players were likely to have "over-indulged".  Hands up who was surprised that it was Dunne involved in a drink based incident?

[Jimbo]

GH is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, seems to me. On one hand he alienates some senior pros by putting new rules into practice - cutting days off, instructing them to move closer to the club (or at least, not to live in Lancashire) - and when he does allow them some down time, two of his senior players let him down like that.

He should know by now which players were likely to have "over-indulged".  Hands up who was surprised that it was Dunne involved in a drink based incident?

I'd have been less surprised only if Dunne was involved in a cake-based incident.

[KevinGage]

Assault and Battenburg.

The fat bloater also looks increasingly like Bella Emberg with every passing day.

[eastie]

Not sure about that gagey, I think bella is much quicker on the turn than dunney.

[glasses]

Id like to know who the coaching staff were that were involved. Robert Duverne was the fella involved in the ruck with Evra and most of the French squad at the World cup, who is now our fitness coach.

Not seeking to defend the players unprofessional actions at all, but perhaps Duverne is a bit of a knobhead?

In  South Africa, Robert Duverne got angry about a bunch of cuntish French internationals who were refusing to train (OK, they had a fucking lunatic for a manager but still....). He then gave Evra a piece of his mind and stormed off after throwing his stopwatch up the pitch. It was not a "ruck".

I do not know whether he is a knobhead or not but you can't say he is based on that incident.

No, of course not. I said perhaps he is a bit of a knobhead. I was just speculating, as they have named the players, not the coaching staff (I stand to be corrected if they have named them). I suppose I should have said that Duverne perhaps isn't a stranger to controversy? I don't know.

The way I see it, these sort of 'bonding' sessions are all about airing views and getting things out in the open. They shouldn't have been pissed up, that I agree with. Maybe some things just needed to be said?

[Lew Chatterleys Lover]

What the fuck's wrong with them? Imagine the effect on our younger lot watching these two drunken wankers. With luck Delph could be the future of this club - Dunne is looking more and more like the past.

[PeterWithe]

You only need to look at the weight difference in dunne from last season for a large part of that answer- he is clearly carrying more than last season.

He's clearly not the player he was and for a spell he didn't look fit enough but I'm not so sure about this 'fat' thing that keeps cropping up, clubs that are far inferior to ours give their players target weights and % body fat and monitor it closely on a weekly basis, if Dunne was over his target weight or body fat then he'd not be playing at all.

I just think the years on the piss have caught up with him.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Agree with all that Pw, except the last line. The years on the pop may be catching up with him but when he applies himself, at he did the other week in the cup against Man City, he's still a bloody good defender. The problem is he was obviously out to prove a point against his former club, yet appears to believe that less than 110% effort is acceptable the rest of the time. He needs to either get focused or pack his bags.

[LeeB]

Piss poor management / leadership skills. Drags them all out to Leicester for a 2 day bonding session, Yet GH & GMc see it better that they F**k off halfway through to watch Tottenham

Very "them & us" approach, Houllier needs the support of the players yet he seems to do little to gain any

Strange strange man

Oh the irony.

[Mazrim]

WikiVilla is right.


...nah, just kidding.

[black pearl of inchicore]

What's the problem.......the honey monster was only celebrating St. Patrick's day ,even though he was about a week early........Did you ever see Shane Mcgowan,he celebrates Paddy's day ...everyday.It was just a good auld session that started just after breakfast,hope they had a sing song aswell.There should be no real problem as we normally play every 10 days around this time every season after the gaffer makes a balls of the cup competitions we are involved in.