Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[OzVilla]

How much is Gary Cahill worth now ?
Bolton fans were singing "Cahill, fucking hates villa"

And remind me who was infront of Cahill in the Villa pecking order which meant he wanted out................and then weep.

it was martin laursen, end of story!

And the rest.

[WikiVilla]

Curtis farkin Davies

[rutski]

Isn't Olof Mellberg out of contract in the summer?   What he lacks in coaching experience he would more than make up for in character and mental strength.

what a load of arse!

[eastie]

Interesting to see bottom of the table Wigan only lost to a dreadful keeping mistake at eastlands today against citys superstars- if Wigan can push them like that how sad GED doesn't think our strongest available side could do the same- what a lot of confidence it shows he has eh?

[ktvillan]

There is a lot of hope for next season with good youngsters and some good football played. But Houllier has consistently failed to address the key problem - the defence, which is the joint third worst in the PL with 50 conceded.  I could see Friedel was not up to it at the start of the season and even at times last season.  So why didnt we make a keeper a priority in January?  Why don't we ditch this zonal marking bollocks which everyone except GH can see isn't fucking working?  Why don't we have players on the posts for free kicks and corners?  It just drives me mad to see GH  allowing the same mistakes to be made over and over again.

And the same goes for letting Ash take all the free kicks.  Four seasons ago we scored about half our goals from set pieces. Now we are lucky if one actually ever reaches a claret and blue shirt unless it's sitting half way up the Holte.  Yet every time Ash grabs the ball and proceeds to fire it into infinity.   Is GH the only one who can't see we are wasting a massive part of our goalscoring potential by letting Ash continue to waste set pieces? I'd just like to see some evidence that he is doing something to address these clear and obvious problems. 

 

[rutski]

How much is Gary Cahill worth now ?
Bolton fans were singing "Cahill, fucking hates villa"

And remind me who was infront of Cahill in the Villa pecking order which meant he wanted out................and then weep.

it was martin laursen, end of story!

And the rest.

if you can cast your mind back he was going to be martin laursens replacement, however, cahill got sold and laursen got injured vey soon after each other, and for what it is worth, i dont think he is better than our four centre halves at the club anyway!

[ktvillan]

Interesting to see bottom of the table Wigan only lost to a dreadful keeping mistake at eastlands today against citys superstars- if Wigan can push them like that how sad GED doesn't think our strongest available side could do the same- what a lot of confidence it shows he has eh?

Fulham got a draw there last weekend as well.  Just shows what a bit of belief and fight could have achieved.   

[Dan England]

How much is Gary Cahill worth now ?
Bolton fans were singing "Cahill, fucking hates villa"

And remind me who was infront of Cahill in the Villa pecking order which meant he wanted out................and then weep.

it was martin laursen, end of story!

And the rest.

if you can cast your mind back he was going to be martin laursens replacement, however, cahill got sold and laursen got injured vey soon after each other, and for what it is worth, i dont think he is better than our four centre halves at the club anyway!

Aren't you forgetting Cahill wanted/asked to go to meakesure he got regular football. He was not one of our two best centre halves at the time.

[WikiVilla]

Marshall should be given a run in goal he looked half decent in the pre-match shots in today

[gervilla]

Cahill wanted to go to get first team football and Barry didn't take the penalty because he getting treatment:)

[KevinGage]

We won't go down, I'm still reasonably confident of that.

I'm increasingly coming around to the idea that it might be for the best if we stop up by the skin of our teeth though. If we're comfortable, the temptation might be there to continue with this complete travesty of a manager.  Just about staying up might focus a few minds. Could GH still be excused in that scenario - with this set of players? Or would that be the stage where the unavoidable conclusion is he has had just as much of a bearing (probably more so) on events than anything that happened at the start of the season?

[ktvillan]

People can't be foolish enough to watch that and think we'll go down. We were better than Bolton. We just panic at set-pieces, largely because we've conceeded a lot through them and I think it plays on the players minds.

I think we've also seen why Darren Bent won't go to a bigger club than us. Whilst I'm 100% convinced he will go on to score lots of goals for us, imagine if he put all the chances he has away. I imagine this is how it's been for him down the years. He is always in great positions and so will always score, but the ratio of chances to scoring seems to let him down a bit. Still, I'm totally happy for him to be at Villa and long may his scoring continue (just don't faff around with it when in front of goal again please Darren!).

We can be better than every team we play but if we still contrive to lose to them we will go down.  Nothing foolish about it, it's a fact.  Agree about Bent, I think he will need four chances to score one, and like Gabby he doesn't look so good with time to think, he's best with instinctive first time finishes (see all his goals for us so far).  In fact he's a bit like  Gabby but with much better movement and space finding.

[gti2win]

Just got back from the game, not read the thread, i thought defending apart we played some really good stuff today going forward. On another day could easily of scored 5, massively frustrating on the defending side, if collins and dunne were fit would things of been different, this season so far possibly says no, and for me friedel has to go, his command of the area is piss poor and hes constantly glued to his line.

I thought we looked much better than bolton, although that counts for little league wise, davies constantly getting away with fouling all match got tedious, and im sure we must have the worst record for conceeding late goals, thats how it feels anyways.

[Blackcountry Villa]

some good football played. 

Do me a favour.

[gervilla]

Was there anyone on the pitch for us today that you could actually say had a stinker ?
Bent should have had at least 1 more than he got and a few sitters were missed . We conceded 3 stupid goals from siuations that, had we a leader ala Laursen  in defence , we would have dealt with but individually I cant really say anyone was shit today.
Good to see Luke back today and  NRC is definatly putting himself in the shop window. He did a great job today.