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Author Topic: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread  (Read 129824 times)

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #90 on: March 05, 2011, 05:18:18 PM »
Mac, all, don't suddenly pretend the defence issue is new. I agree, and said we should get, a defence coach or consultant months ago, even as far as Phil Thompson 3 days a week to help out, BUT before GH came were shipping goals and looked poor at the back starting from Christmas 09-10. It is a long term issue, and one we need to combat badly. Coaching is the key, but taking your chances helps out the defence. We score to make it 3-1 it changes the psychology of the game. I just think there is more too it than coaching, the trust has to be there when they go out to play. A kid lost his man twice today. I don't think Collins would have twice. Someone questioned what GH said to Baker - I am sure as our tallest defender it was don't lose him again, short of holding their hands what more is there.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #91 on: March 05, 2011, 05:18:38 PM »
Maybe we wanna be pointing the finger at Young, Bent and Downing for missing howlers before pointing it at Houllier. Quite how that is his fault is beyond me... we just don't take advantage and close it out, never have done for years now.

Keeper and two centre backs are gonna be a must...

Wolves Wigan Blackburn Stripeyfilth Blose Blackpool will all finish below us...but it's fucking twitchy

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #92 on: March 05, 2011, 05:19:30 PM »
He'll be moaning about the lack of Dunne, Collins and Cuellar, but the defensive errors were schoolboyish.

How many times do we concede in the last 5 minutes ?

Crap, utter crap - Bolton are, I have to say, a wanky club mind you - their Manager deserves better.


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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #93 on: March 05, 2011, 05:19:35 PM »
At the moment conceding a corner is almost like conceding a pen, guaranteed goal chance.

That's what I was thinking earlier today.

The fact we never seem to learn from it is just unacceptable.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #94 on: March 05, 2011, 05:19:45 PM »
I never want to talk or hear about what happened last season ever again!

This season is really frustrating it went from one extreme to another, nothing ever seems to go our way. It's all very predictable i'm not a neutral i don't care if we played well.

2 wins away from home all season, 35 goals conceded is 'that' sort of form it really is worrying. Mainly because we have to score a shit load of goal just to draw/win.

How do you make players more clinical when half of em aren't capable.  Remember reo's shocking miss against chelski i can't forget!

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #95 on: March 05, 2011, 05:19:50 PM »
People blaming Houllier for the result today are fecking clueless or just too wrapped in their emotion to know better. We had the chances, when leading, to put the game firmly to bed. We didn't which then invites pressure on a very young and shaky defence, which to top it culminates in us missing a penalty. Stomping feet at the manager is simply futile, and the players need to take a bit of flak, Friedel as the experienced man does nothing to inspire in goal, while Young insisted on taking the pen when Bent and Reo Coker tried to dissuade him.

Might take a week or so away from the site, as the hysterics will start now about GH and be so boring.

I am fecking clueless.

Me too,fecking fecking clueless
Sorry I am more fecking clueless - think of Dougal from Father Ted and you ain't even close.

Agreed.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #96 on: March 05, 2011, 05:21:14 PM »
Today was so predictable that I actually laughed when Bolton got their third. I don't remember ever being so angry that I actually laughed before. Words cannot describe how thoroughly fucked off I am.

Offline madirishvillain

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #97 on: March 05, 2011, 05:21:30 PM »
We got what we deserved

That is just plain stupid, did you see the game because I did.  We absolutely murdered that Bolton team on possession and chances created.  A missed penalty at the crucial time in the game was the turning point.  We did not "get what we deserved" because an easy victory is what we deserved based on the clear chances we created in both halves.


jesus wept


this is what is wrong with us

this shite

we had loads of chances

BOLTON 3 VILLA 2

stick your fucken chances up your fucken hole

Yeah shit like you mate who supposedly support the club

yea shit like me

bottom line is Villa lost

now i hope the fact we made loads of chances but got 0 points dosent come back to haunt us

anyway what a fantastic week for my club

thank you Randy and thank you Gerard



We are at the business end of the season and still in the mire. How we play and how many chances we create are irrelevant compared with the only thing that matters. Fashioning a way of playing matches where we get more goals than your opponents, or failing that getting as many. Today Houllier failed on both counts

andy you basically summed up what i was trying to say

im sorry for the language in mine

but at times this club gets on my tits

surrendering the FA cup match on Wednesday for what

absolutley nothing

i have a feeling, we are the BIG club to go down this year

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #98 on: March 05, 2011, 05:21:37 PM »
There are so many positives about the way we played today, but some recurring, underlying negatives that mean yet again the game was a wasted opportunity. The most significant underlying negatives seem to be defending set pieces, and taking set pieces. Several less talented teams than Villa have built their whole game-plan on a rigorous approach to these. Today I think that you can blame the defending on the dearth of personnel available. However, the taking is more of a problem, as pretty much every corner, free-kick, as well as the penalty, was wasted by our first choice takers. Why is almost every corner floated beyond the far post without pace - how many goals are scored from these kind of corners?

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #99 on: March 05, 2011, 05:21:55 PM »
Just not good enough. The really troubling thing is that it doesn't even hurt any more. There's just a feeling of numbness, and a dreadful inevitability about the whole thing. Desperate, desperate times.

This.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #100 on: March 05, 2011, 05:22:05 PM »
Same old story , 21 points dropped from leading positions now, another 2 goals from corners and again a chance to kill a team off and a missed pen and bang we lose .

Five yrs ago randy came and we began to dream of great days, 5 yrs later we have won nothing, are in a relegation battle , have a manager who has split the fans, have lost our best players , and have record debts.

Bright future?

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #101 on: March 05, 2011, 05:22:20 PM »
Maybe we wanna be pointing the finger at Young, Bent and Downing for missing howlers before pointing it at Houllier. Quite how that is his fault is beyond me... we just don't take advantage and close it out, never have done for years now.

The point is, if we had even half a clue how to defend properly, those missed chances wouldn't matter at all right now.

We play some more than decent stuff up front, but we now genuinely need to score at least three goals to be in with a chance of winning.

Today was just the best illustration of that you will ever see, and comes with the added bonus of us having given up in the FA Cup a few days ago to further our chances of winning.

It's not his fault we missed those chances, not directly, that much is true, but the fact our defence is so shit, and has been so shit all season, is ultimately his responsibility. Throw in events of earlier this week, plus the comments re Manchester City, and it smacks of rank bad management - of the club, not just the team.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #102 on: March 05, 2011, 05:22:34 PM »
He'll be moaning about the lack of Dunne, Collins and Cuellar, but the defensive errors were schoolboyish.

In fairness the only centre backs we could put out today were nearly young enough to be actual schoolboys.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #103 on: March 05, 2011, 05:22:52 PM »
I'm fecking clueless as well.

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Re: Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #104 on: March 05, 2011, 05:23:37 PM »
People blaming Houllier for the result today are fecking clueless or just too wrapped in their emotion to know better. We had the chances, when leading, to put the game firmly to bed. We didn't which then invites pressure on a very young and shaky defence, which to top it culminates in us missing a penalty. Stomping feet at the manager is simply futile, and the players need to take a bit of flak, Friedel as the experienced man does nothing to inspire in goal, while Young insisted on taking the pen when Bent and Reo Coker tried to dissuade him.

Might take a week or so away from the site, as the hysterics will start now about GH and be so boring.

I am fecking clueless.

Me too,fecking fecking clueless
Sorry I am more fecking clueless - think of Dougal from Father Ted and you ain't even close.

Agreed.
Well I'm glad we agree on something.

 


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