Old Firm

[Risso]

The only reason people who live outside of Glasgow support Rangers or Celtic is because they are either:

1. Glory hunting - choosing a successful side to tag on to. How can you take anyone seriously who does that

2. Using the club to represent their religion. How can you take anyone seriously who does that

As bad as Man United fans from Watford ( who all sem to have a nan from Salford).

Spot on Chico.  I couldn't give a flying fuck about either team, and one of the remaining good things about football is that that pair of shit clubs doesn't play in the English league.  All that sectarian bollocks is beyond sad.

[Phil from the upper holte]

The only reason people who live outside of Glasgow support Rangers or Celtic is because they are either:

1. Glory hunting - choosing a successful side to tag on to. How can you take anyone seriously who does that

2. Using the club to represent their religion. How can you take anyone seriously who does that

As bad as Man United fans from Watford ( who all sem to have a nan from Salford).

Spot on Chico.  I couldn't give a flying fuck about either team, and one of the remaining good things about football is that that pair of shit clubs doesn't play in the English league.  All that sectarian bollocks is beyond sad.

Totally agree with the pair of you. Fuck Rangers and Fuck Celtic.

None of those teams get me tingling

[Small Rodent]

They kicked fuck out of Manchester 2 or 3 years ago too, am afraid it's drink that's the biggest problem, they just don't stop .

My friend's skiffle band (Railroad Bill) were playing in a pub in Manchester on that day.

The Rangers fans couldn't understand why a band playing music from c.1957 on washboard. banjo and tea-chest bass, couldn't play "Simply the Best" by Tina Turner.

In the end, they improvised after threats of violence with beer bottles.

[Risso]

They kicked fuck out of Manchester 2 or 3 years ago too, am afraid it's drink that's the biggest problem, they just don't stop .

Indeed they did, absolute scum of the earth.  Rangers fans make Knuckledraggers look like a sunday school outing.

[peter w]

I really couldn't care less about Celtic/Rangers in terms of a Scottish angle. Its always interesting to see who has won for me, and I'll sometimes have a peek when they're playing. I only saw the final whistle scenes on the news and thought they were brilliant in a funny type of way.

Not sure what was said by McCoist must have said something as Lennon responded with a shouting of 'He did touch me/barge me' or whatever it was. I mean they're both classless but it was a great advert for the rivallry around the pitch.

As for the follow ons, such as trouble between the fans to domestic violence that's another thing. Although how they can hold players/teams responsible for the actions of thugs and idiots is beyond me. Its one thing doing it to another football fan - but to go home, beat the wife (and them Oldham bastards as man city used to sing) is quite disingenuous and shouldn't be mentioned in connection with any issues raised about public standards.

[lovejoy]

OK I consider myself open minded I am clearly in a minority on this forum in thinking that a villa game vs celtic or rangers is more appealing than a game vs wigan or blackburn. The buzz I get out ot watching rangers against celtic is not shared by everyone and they'd prefer to watch the fun of wigan blackburn or fulham sunderland, each to their own I suppose.

[Dave]

OK I consider myself open minded I am clearly in a minority on this forum in thinking that a villa game vs celtic or rangers is more appealing than a game vs wogan or blackburn. The buzz I get out ot watching rangers against celtic is not shared by everyone and they'd prefer to watch the fun of wigan blackburn or fulham sunderland each to their own I suppose.

Why not watch Molde vs Rosenborg or Grasshoppers vs FC Zurich?

It's just as interesting as Rangers vs Celtic but with far less twats involved.

[lovejoy]

OK I consider myself open minded I am clearly in a minority on this forum in thinking that a villa game vs celtic or rangers is more appealing than a game vs wogan or blackburn. The buzz I get out ot watching rangers against celtic is not shared by everyone and they'd prefer to watch the fun of wigan blackburn or fulham sunderland each to their own I suppose.

Why not watch Molde vs Rosenborg or Grasshoppers vs FC Zurich?

It's just as interesting as Rangers vs Celtic but with far less twats involved.

Go ahead you enjoy the atmosphere and the passion of those games then. Each to their own as I said.

[Dave]

OK I consider myself open minded I am clearly in a minority on this forum in thinking that a villa game vs celtic or rangers is more appealing than a game vs wogan or blackburn. The buzz I get out ot watching rangers against celtic is not shared by everyone and they'd prefer to watch the fun of wigan blackburn or fulham sunderland each to their own I suppose.

Why not watch Molde vs Rosenborg or Grasshoppers vs FC Zurich?

It's just as interesting as Rangers vs Celtic but with far less twats involved.

Go ahead you enjoy the atmosphere and the passion of those games then. Each to their own as I said.

Yes, because the passion and the atmosphere at one irrelevant and tedious local derby will be so much worse than at another.

[lovejoy]

Please tell me if you watch the modle derbys every time they're plaed and that you ignore the glasgow ones?

[Dave]

Please tell me if you watch the modle derbys every time they're plaed and that you ignore the glasgow ones?

Nope, I'm quite happy to accept that one is as pointless as the other.

I'd be interested to hear your logic as to why the Glasgow one is more interesting and important though.

[dave.woodhall]

What's a modle derby?

[lovejoy]

Dave I find the old firm games vibrant lively and exciting. the undercurrent of aggression and importance of the occaision add to this mix. They are very rarely dull. I am not sure what the beef is here if you find them dull then don't watch. I still stand by my earlier assertion that if Celtic and Rangers were to play in the premier league the attendance would be bigger than for the blackburn, wigan games, the teams they'd likely replace.

[Phil from the upper holte]

What's a modle derby?

Dunno but it sounds exciting doesn't it?

[Pete3206]

Dave I find the old firm games vibrant lively and exciting. the undercurrent of aggression and importance of the occaision add to this mix. They are very rarely dull. I am not sure what the beef is here if you find them dull then don't watch. I still stand by my earlier assertion that if Celtic and Rangers were to play in the premier league the attendance would be bigger than for the blackburn, wigan games, the teams they'd likely replace.

I agree that there would be a lot more interest, but would it be worth all the trouble that fixtures like these would inevitably cause. Not IMO.