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Offline philthebar

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #135 on: March 03, 2011, 01:44:36 PM »
This is really an addition to my 'What is the point?' post on the post-match thread, but I think it is relevant here. Bringing in one or two new faces to suit tactics or to replace a jaded player within the same structure can definitely freshen up a team. Houllier has proved that he has the ability and willingness to do that several times this season. But making wholesale changes to the entire team never works, not for the newbies who 'get the chance to shine', not for the seniors left to get cold on the bench, nor for the fans who (if I take myself as an example) get that 'tingle' of anticipation before the game that something may just happen - only to be slapped down as the teamsheet comes through on the mobile. I can tell you I gave up caring as soon as I saw the team. If they want a practice game to try out the second string, then don't have it in the 5th round of the cup at Eastlands. As I said on the other thread, playing your strongest team on the back of a good result, of renewed belief, of a bit of continuity, can ensure a much better end to the season than the demoralisation and defeatism exhibited last night.

Spot on -

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #136 on: March 03, 2011, 01:45:37 PM »
The corner that lead to their first goal was a move down our right that seemed far too easy for me, so had he played Walker would that have prevented it?

Anyway, what might have happened isn't important.  What DID happen is.

Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #137 on: March 03, 2011, 01:52:57 PM »
Dear Mr Lerner,

I appreciate you might be a bit strapped for cash at the moment but any chance you could loan me £50 until pay day?
I can pay you back on March 20th.
Thanks

ps Were the manager and his assistant looking so pissed off last night because they were missing Masterchef and as a result put a weakened side out so there is no danger of missing any further episodes?

Online Walmley_Villa

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #138 on: March 03, 2011, 01:58:19 PM »
Citeh never got out of first gear. They didn't have to yes but our strongest team (minus Bent) would not have got the result last night (as we are too powder puff in front of goal). They have a much stronger squad than us (and should have considering the ££££sss spent). I think the frustration of the fans is that the message from the announcement of the team was one of.......we're not fussed about getting a result.

Offline not3bad

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #139 on: March 03, 2011, 02:00:20 PM »
This is really an addition to my 'What is the point?' post on the post-match thread, but I think it is relevant here. Bringing in one or two new faces to suit tactics or to replace a jaded player within the same structure can definitely freshen up a team. Houllier has proved that he has the ability and willingness to do that several times this season. But making wholesale changes to the entire team never works, not for the newbies who 'get the chance to shine', not for the seniors left to get cold on the bench, nor for the fans who (if I take myself as an example) get that 'tingle' of anticipation before the game that something may just happen - only to be slapped down as the teamsheet comes through on the mobile. I can tell you I gave up caring as soon as I saw the team. If they want a practice game to try out the second string, then don't have it in the 5th round of the cup at Eastlands. As I said on the other thread, playing your strongest team on the back of a good result, of renewed belief, of a bit of continuity, can ensure a much better end to the season than the demoralisation and defeatism exhibited last night.

Spot on -

Very well put indeed.

Offline eastie

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #140 on: March 03, 2011, 02:04:20 PM »
Citeh never got out of first gear. They didn't have to yes but our strongest team (minus Bent) would not have got the result last night (as we are too powder puff in front of goal). They have a much stronger squad than us (and should have considering the ££££sss spent). I think the frustration of the fans is that the message from the announcement of the team was one of.......we're not fussed about getting a result.


rubbish- blues and fulham drew at eastlands and everton won there , its crap to say our best team wouldnt have a chance of getting a result- they are not barcelona! we would have had a chance if wed gone for it , rather than wave the white flag.

Offline Simon Ward

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #141 on: March 03, 2011, 02:08:18 PM »
Just days after our neighbours win a trophy, albeit for the first time in a lifetime, we also get an opportunity to progress in another cup competition.
Unfortunately the manager you appointed has chosen to not take this matter as seriously as thousands of fans and certainly the 3K fans who have made the journey tonight.
I never thought I would see the club I have supported for nearly 50 years give up on this  competition.
After witnessing a good team performance at the weekend I had great expectations for the game, regrettably Monsieur Houllier has decided to surrender this tie without a whimper.
Today I purchased a ticket for my son`s best friend who despite being 10 years of age has yet to pin his allegience to a club - I am looking to convince him that AVFC are the team to follow rather than Liverpool where we live. Why should I bother?
Furthermore I had been looking forward to the up coming games at Bolton and Everton - again why should I bother?
My young son and I enjoyed travelling to Wembley twice last year and we hoped this manager could take us to a cup victory - but in essence his decision tonight mirrors that of the former manager who also surrended the hope of winning in Europe.

If Monsieur Houllier is under instructions to stay in the Premiership at the expense of winning a trophy and because of the potential loss of revenue should we go down, I would prefer if this was communicated to the fans before they travel miles up the M6.
 Winning the FA Cup would be a great fillip for fans of my vintage as it is the only trophy we have yet to see us win.

If this is the way it is I will no longer spend hard earned cash on FA Cup tickets -

Finally my decision to renew my season tickets for next season is no longer an automatic one. Perhaps like the manager and some of the players I will just turn up when I feel like it.

Are you sending that letter VCTM? If you are please endorse it fro me as well, thanks.

Offline TonyD

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #142 on: March 03, 2011, 02:10:54 PM »
Dear Randy

Could you clear it up for us fans.  Did you tell GH to throw in the towel before the kick off and cause complete disrespect for the travelling fans and the good name of our club?  Or did he take upon himself.  Either way one of you should walk.


Online Walmley_Villa

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #143 on: March 03, 2011, 02:18:09 PM »
Citeh never got out of first gear. They didn't have to yes but our strongest team (minus Bent) would not have got the result last night (as we are too powder puff in front of goal). They have a much stronger squad than us (and should have considering the ££££sss spent). I think the frustration of the fans is that the message from the announcement of the team was one of.......we're not fussed about getting a result.


rubbish- blues and fulham drew at eastlands and everton won there , its crap to say our best team wouldnt have a chance of getting a result- they are not barcelona! we would have had a chance if wed gone for it , rather than wave the white flag.


The same side that got tonked 4-0? Could you argue Citeh played a weakened team with Tevez on the bench? Personally I would have gone all old fashioned....4-4-2 with Gabby and Heskey up front. I can't stand this single striker up front. Only Walker could have improved the defence with Collins and Cuellar out. Petrov was though a complete waste of space and should have the captaincy taken off imo.

Offline eastie

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #144 on: March 03, 2011, 02:54:24 PM »
if we dont think we can beat any better teams with us then we might as well not bother if thats your argument. so, we lost 4-0 in dec , we also beat them in jan and would have given them a tough game if wed put out our best available team.

Offline Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #145 on: March 03, 2011, 02:57:16 PM »
if we dont think we can beat any better teams with us then we might as well not bother if thats your argument. so, we lost 4-0 in dec , we also beat them in jan and would have given them a tough game if wed put out our best available team.

We know we're not going to win the league, so good question, why do we bother? The same goes for 15 other clubs in the Premier League.

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #146 on: March 03, 2011, 02:59:06 PM »
I'm not saying we couldn't have beaten them just that I feel our strongest team would have struggled against them with the formation we currently use. I'm certainly not defending GH.

Just pissed off and angry like you and everyone else.

Offline Risso

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #147 on: March 03, 2011, 03:02:45 PM »
Blues "shouldn't" have beaten Arsenal.  If they'd played a weakened side they wouldn't have.  If you don't try, you don't deserve to win.  Houllier is a chuffing disgrace.

Offline TonyD

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #148 on: March 03, 2011, 03:04:58 PM »
Blues "shouldn't" have beaten Arsenal.  If they'd played a weakened side they wouldn't have.  If you don't try, you don't deserve to win.  Houllier is a chuffing disgrace.
Spot on! Nail Head BANG

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Re: Dear Mr Lerner
« Reply #149 on: March 03, 2011, 03:07:00 PM »
Dear Randy

Could you clear it up for us fans.  Did you tell GH to throw in the towel before the kick off and cause complete disrespect for the travelling fans and the good name of our club?  Or did he take upon himself.  Either way one of you should walk.



No over-reaction there at all.

 


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