Sponsorship withdrawal ?

[Mac]

Reported on VT and in the Daily Heil that Fxpro have decided to withdraw from sponsoring us, whilst continuing with Fulham.

Its towards the bottom of this article.

Not sure how true it is, but is it a bit of a slap in the face for us, that we can't hold onto our club sponsor ?

It was "reported" in Golden Muppets about 2 months ago.

[pauliewalnuts]

For them to walk out after a few months, is a cock-up and typifies the type of big mistakes that have been made since Faulkner became CEO.

The problem is, you have no idea whether it is a "cock up" by anyone, let alone enough information to point the finger at Faulkner.

This could be something entirely down to decisions at their end, but obviously, seeing as Faulkner is your bete noir, you've decided it is his fault.
 
Somewhat ridiculous given that your current signature is "facts are sacred".

[dave.woodhall]

because it should be someones job to maintain a good relationship with our biggest sponsor.

At the time the deal was signed, Paul Faulkner, chief executive of Aston Villa, said: “This is the biggest deal we have ever done. The previous biggest was the Nike kit sponsorship which was worth more than £10 million.

“This was a big process for us. We had a team of people looking for the right partner locally, nationally and internationally.

For them to walk out after a few months, is a cock-up and typifies the type of big mistakes that have been made since Faulkner became CEO.

You're ever so good at saying what "should" happen but sadly this isn't some sort of dream world where things go exactly how you want them to. Sponsors find themselves over-stretched. Star players have their heads turned by richer clubs. Wankers walk out at awkward times. None of this "should" happen, but it does.

[KevinGage]

If Kendrick's take on it is anywhere near the truth, I'm not sure what other options we had.

I guess it comes down to how much we value the Villa brand. If we're content to take any old shite then, yes, it may be acceptable to take a lower price than the one originally negotiated. Or any price for that matter. It sets a precedent when you do that, mind. And could mark us out as a soft touch.

If £3.5 million per annum was the figure we needed to make sponsorship worthwhile, taking less than that doesn't make sense.

Presumably we've been paid for this year, we might have a bit more idea about the competence or otherwise of our CEO based on the deal we strike this summer. If it's on a par (or better) than the FX Pro deal then great. If it's substantially lower then, yes, we might have to wonder what is going on.

[Villa'Zawg]

For them to walk out after a few months, is a cock-up and typifies the type of big mistakes that have been made since Faulkner became CEO.

The problem is, you have no idea whether it is a "cock up" by anyone, let alone enough information to point the finger at Faulkner.

This could be something entirely down to decisions at their end, but obviously, seeing as Faulkner is your bete noir, you've decided it is his fault.
 
Somewhat ridiculous given that your current signature is "facts are sacred".

I know for a fact that we have lost our biggest ever sponsorship deal after only a few months. By most definitions that would be called a cock-up

I know for a fact that a CEO is responsible for running the business and that this is just the latest in a series of cock-ups since Faulkner was appointed as our CEO.

[Chatters]

Doesn't the Nike deal finish at the end of this season? If so, there'd be a new kit for next season with the new manufacturers so a change in sponsor isn't that big a deal IMO.

Wasn't particularly happy that we were being sponsored by the same company as Fulham anyway, so as long as we can get a sponsor who is willing to offer as much/more than FX Pro I'm quite pleased with the situation.

[hawkeye]

pretty sure we would have signed the best deal that was available at that time, the sponsor has now pulled out, more likely because of thier situation not ours, although us languishing at the wrong end of the league will not have helped, how is that Faulkners fault?

[pauliewalnuts]

I know for a fact that we have lost our biggest ever sponsorship deal after only a few months. By most definitions that would be called a cock-up

If only life were simple. Sometimes things happen which are beyond your control.

If Kendrick is to be believed and FXPro wanted a lower price, how do you know it wasn't so low as to be considerably less than we can get elsewhere next season?

The fact is, you don't know. I don't know either, incidentally, which is why I'm not rushing to point the finger at anyone. Then again, I don't have an agenda, whereas, ever since MON went, you've decided Faulkner is to blame for everything, a view which you alone seem to hold on here - usually a sign you're wrong.

[KevinGage]

How do you know for a fact that Faulkner played any part in FX Pro's decision, to either offer less money or to pull out altogether?

Also, what are these other cock-ups? Cock-ups plural, so I'm sure you'll be able to furnish us with plenty of factual examples that aren't guesswork/ flights of fantasy on your part.

Edit: Señor Bentnuts has pretty much covered it.

[Villa'Zawg]

because it should be someones job to maintain a good relationship with our biggest sponsor.

At the time the deal was signed, Paul Faulkner, chief executive of Aston Villa, said: “This is the biggest deal we have ever done. The previous biggest was the Nike kit sponsorship which was worth more than £10 million.

“This was a big process for us. We had a team of people looking for the right partner locally, nationally and internationally.

For them to walk out after a few months, is a cock-up and typifies the type of big mistakes that have been made since Faulkner became CEO.

You're ever so good at saying what "should" happen but sadly this isn't some sort of dream world where things go exactly how you want them to. Sponsors find themselves over-stretched. Star players have their heads turned by richer clubs. Wankers walk out at awkward times. None of this "should" happen, but it does.

To be honest I'm not a big fan of using the "shit happens" approach to building a successful club.

[hawkeye]

Reported on VT and in the Daily Heil that Fxpro have decided to withdraw from sponsoring us, whilst continuing with Fulham.

Its towards the bottom of this article.

Not sure how true it is, but is it a bit of a slap in the face for us, that we can't hold onto our club sponsor ?

It was "reported" in Golden Muppets about 2 months ago.

you tell em Mac

[Toronto Villa]

because it should be someones job to maintain a good relationship with our biggest sponsor.

At the time the deal was signed, Paul Faulkner, chief executive of Aston Villa, said: “This is the biggest deal we have ever done. The previous biggest was the Nike kit sponsorship which was worth more than £10 million.

“This was a big process for us. We had a team of people looking for the right partner locally, nationally and internationally.

For them to walk out after a few months, is a cock-up and typifies the type of big mistakes that have been made since Faulkner became CEO.

You're ever so good at saying what "should" happen but sadly this isn't some sort of dream world where things go exactly how you want them to. Sponsors find themselves over-stretched. Star players have their heads turned by richer clubs. Wankers walk out at awkward times. None of this "should" happen, but it does.

To be honest I'm not a big fan of using the "shit happens" approach to building a successful club.

you're quick to slam Faulkner, but when he managed to sign the likes of Makoun, then smash our transfer record to get Bent, before finishing things off nicely with Bradley, I don't recall you coming on here giving him any credit. If you're going to lambast the bloke (yet again) for something that might be nothing at all to do with him, have the decency to show some balance when he clearly does something good.

[dave.woodhall]

because it should be someones job to maintain a good relationship with our biggest sponsor.

At the time the deal was signed, Paul Faulkner, chief executive of Aston Villa, said: “This is the biggest deal we have ever done. The previous biggest was the Nike kit sponsorship which was worth more than £10 million.

“This was a big process for us. We had a team of people looking for the right partner locally, nationally and internationally.

For them to walk out after a few months, is a cock-up and typifies the type of big mistakes that have been made since Faulkner became CEO.

You're ever so good at saying what "should" happen but sadly this isn't some sort of dream world where things go exactly how you want them to. Sponsors find themselves over-stretched. Star players have their heads turned by richer clubs. Wankers walk out at awkward times. None of this "should" happen, but it does.

To be honest I'm not a big fan of using the "shit happens" approach to building a successful club.

You're a big fan of the shit that walked out though.

[The Moose]

Let's get Bathams to stump up a few bob! A free pint each for every game - what's not to like...?

[Villa'Zawg]

because it should be someones job to maintain a good relationship with our biggest sponsor.

At the time the deal was signed, Paul Faulkner, chief executive of Aston Villa, said: “This is the biggest deal we have ever done. The previous biggest was the Nike kit sponsorship which was worth more than £10 million.

“This was a big process for us. We had a team of people looking for the right partner locally, nationally and internationally.

For them to walk out after a few months, is a cock-up and typifies the type of big mistakes that have been made since Faulkner became CEO.

You're ever so good at saying what "should" happen but sadly this isn't some sort of dream world where things go exactly how you want them to. Sponsors find themselves over-stretched. Star players have their heads turned by richer clubs. Wankers walk out at awkward times. None of this "should" happen, but it does.

To be honest I'm not a big fan of using the "shit happens" approach to building a successful club.

You're a big fan of the shit that walked out though.

I'm a fan of anyone who improves the club.

Has Faulkner been helpful to you personally and/or professionally?