Curtis Davies To Blues - Transfer confirmed

[Dave]

Staggering to think how much we paid for him, though. £11,000,000, wasn't it? Mental, really.

Staggering.

I think we paid £22m for him.

Mental.

Who wants to invent a bigger figure?

[FrankyH]

Met him at a brmb forum with Sid( at the Warriors) , seemed a nice chap- the only thing i remember from the Q&A 's was that he was a man ure supporter and his favourite drink was water!

[pauliewalnuts]

Staggering to think how much we paid for him, though. £11,000,000, wasn't it? Mental, really.

Staggering.

I think we paid £22m for him.

Mental.

Who wants to invent a bigger figure?

There's no need.

Whatever the figure was, it was too much.

[Greg N'Ash]

Will always be remembered for pioneering the short-lived combined centre-half/fullback position. The look of confusion on the likes of Luke Young's face as Curtis regulary popped up playing further wide than him, must have led to a few interesting half time conversations with the ex-manager.

I make that 16m on the MON Transfer Wastertron and rising.......

[citizenDJ]

Staggering to think how much we paid for him, though. £11,000,000, wasn't it? Mental, really.

Staggering.

I think we paid £22m for him.

Mental.

Who wants to invent a bigger figure?

Bloody hell! I already said I couldn't remember the exact figure! I have no cause or desire to artificially increase it, though.

Besides, I bet it was more like 15 million, really.....

[ktvillan]

Its already been said but Davies was superb with Laursen alongside him, hence starting 34 times that season. Alongside anyone else, he felt he had to cover them too and his own game suffered. I have a really bad feeling, again, that this one will come back to ahunt us. He played 49 League games for us, and we will never oficially know the reson he never made it to 50, but i suspect it was a huge payment to Albion and a bigger percentage increase in salary.

This point was once denied on here, by a representive of the board. I did not and will never beleive it !

Some of us have short memories:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1217856/Aston-Villa-manager-Martin-ONeill-miffed-Curtis-Davies-agent-comments.html

I've never doubted the clause didn't exist but the denial that he didn't play anymore games just to avoid the salary increase and payments to West Bromwich Albion !

Ah okay. Seems damning to me, how long he's been stuck on 58/59 games, despite the poor form/relations with the manager of some of our defenders.

I believe the General denied there was any such clause so it wasn't the reason why he wasn't played.  From what I know (I know someone who knows Curtis and his agent very well) there was such a clause, and I refuse to believe it was just coincidence that he never got a look in once that story about the clause came out.     Sure Curtis had some stinkers but it's surprising how some can't even give him credit for some superb performances alongside Laursen.  I think we've dropped a bollock letting him go and I think he will go on to prove a very good player at a club that actually values him and shows him a bit of respect.   

[dave.woodhall]

The word of a Villa director versus an internet conspiracy theory. Tough call.

[Michel Sibble]

He was on 49 appearances. One more game and he would be paid 25k more in wages.

Conspiracy or not, paying such an average player that much doesn't make economic sense, and it fits in with the current the wage bill reduction policy we seem to have.

[ktvillan]

The word of a Villa director versus an internet conspiracy theory. Tough call.

Did you used to believe everything Doug said as well?  Or Bendall?  You may be happy to to swallow whole everything the club says and dismiss everything that doesn't suit as conspiracy , but I'll reserve judgement based on what I know thanks.   

[Marlon's Hairy Wood]

The word of a Villa director versus an internet conspiracy theory. Tough call.

Did you used to believe everything Doug said as well?  Or Bendall?  You may be happy to to swallow whole everything the club says and dismiss everything that doesn't suit as conspiracy , but I'll reserve judgement based on what I know thanks.   

[Merv]

Over to you, Oliver Holt. Oliver? Oliver?

[Dave Cooper please]

The word of a Villa director versus an internet conspiracy theory. Tough call.

Did you used to believe everything Doug said as well?  Or Bendall?  You may be happy to to swallow whole everything the club says and dismiss everything that doesn't suit as conspiracy , but I'll reserve judgement based on what I know thanks.   

Where did this rumour of a clause come from? Show me a credible source for it and maybe I could start to think it may be true, until then I'll be inclined to believe a director of a board who have been pretty much entirely honest with us since they arrived.

[pauliewalnuts]

The word of a Villa director versus an internet conspiracy theory. Tough call.

Did you used to believe everything Doug said as well?  Or Bendall?  You may be happy to to swallow whole everything the club says and dismiss everything that doesn't suit as conspiracy , but I'll reserve judgement based on what I know thanks.   

The difference is, Doug gave us lots of reasons to be suspicious.

The current leadership have not.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Where did this rumour of a clause come from? Show me a credible source for it and maybe I could start to think it may be true,

Davies' agent referred to it last year in the press. O'Neill confirmed it but wasn't happy that it had been aired in public.

Although the clause only allowed for renegotiation of his contract, not a guarantee that he would be on any agreed wage.

I think.

Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just posting an article

Birmingham Mail (England)

October 3, 2009

O'Neill fury at Curtis pay talk; Boss blasts Curtis camp.



Byline: Mat Kendrick

MARTIN O'Neill has angrily blasted the Curtis Davies camp for trying to hold Villa to ransom by issuing a "pay-up or he's off" ultimatum.

O'Neill is furious at stories that Davies will consider his futureat the club if they fail to award him a bumper new contract in January.

Davies has played 58 games for O'Neill's team and needs to make two more appearances to activate a clause to discuss an improved deal.

But talks have been delayed because he is currently sidelined following surgery after playing through the pain barrier with a shoulder problem.

Reports quoting the player's agent suggest that Davies feels he deserves the doubleyour-money deal now after putting his body on the line.

The former Albion defender, whose current contract runs until 2012, is believed to be on about pounds 25,000 per week but wants nearer pounds 50,000.

But O'Neill is upset that Davies's representatives have chosen to go public with his concerns and the threat that he could consider hisfuture.

And the Villa boss emphasised that the 24-year-old was left out against Fulham last month because of injury and not for financial reasons.

"I always thought that it was private information with a contract but if the agent of a player chooses to divulge them, then that's entirely up to them," said O'Neill.

"He's due a renegotiation of a contract if he plays 60 games.

"I don't really want to bring this into the public domain, but I think that we've pretty well looked after players here at this football club - both injured players and players who have done very well forthe club. We had some conversations with the agent and really, at the end of it all, the agent knows where we stand and what we were looking at. "He has chosen now to come out and tell these things and that's entirely up to him. "The fact is I do not deny that the stipulation in his contract is an X number of games which is 60. "I didn't knowthat at the time until the agent reminded me. "That is not the reason that I did not play himin the game against Fulham. I was very pleased that he had played some matches, when really he probably wasn't completely fit - in the sense that it was psychological, if not physical, that it might come out at any given stage again.

"So from that viewpoint we're grateful. But all of those things are taken into consideration when eventually we sit down and decide to do it, naturally. "There are guidelines, but this idea that he is considering his future, I'm not so sure that that's the brightest thing that an agent and a player whose controlling his agent should be saying." O'Neill expects Steve Sidwell to be available for Monday's clashwith Man City after overcoming a thigh strain he picked up before the Carling Cup win over Cardiff. "Steve trained on Friday," he added. "I don't think he has had any ill-effects. He is making good progress."



 

[dave.woodhall]

The word of a Villa director versus an internet conspiracy theory. Tough call.

Did you used to believe everything Doug said as well?  Or Bendall?  You may be happy to to swallow whole everything the club says and dismiss everything that doesn't suit as conspiracy , but I'll reserve judgement based on what I know thanks.   

No-one has ever denied that the clause existed. The question concerned whether Davies wasn't picked because of it. The general stated that this wasn't the case.

When someone gives a straight answer to a direct question you either accept they're telling the truth or you call them a liar. Too many people are too willing to shout "liar" when they get an answer that doesn't fit their theory.