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Offline E I Adio

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2011, 09:07:36 AM »
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Unlike Bruce, Sunderland chairman Niall Quinn said he foresaw a situation with Bent after noticing a change in his demeanour.
"I had an inkling," he told Kildare TV on Wednesday.
"Darren's a terrific guy; he's been great for us as he's done loads of work for the club over and beyond just playing football. He's bubbly, he's always on form.
"[But] I could tell there was something up with him, that he was not right.
"It transpired that they [Villa] were setting him up. They tempted him and he took the bait. It's hugely disappointing for us, and when the transfer request came in that probably was the final nail. We could have tried to stop it, but we heard he was already down there.
"It was really difficult. A real tough one for us to accept.

Well spotted Niall. I presume the clue might have been when he handed in his transfer request in the summer.

Hard to remember such an outpouring of humbug cynically designed to deflect the flak from the supporters. I think after the initial shock has died down a little, the more intelligent fans might just see what's been going on up there.


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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #91 on: January 21, 2011, 09:21:16 AM »
They are becoming so embarrassing.   I Fookin love it

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #92 on: January 21, 2011, 09:22:17 AM »
Sunderland fans should be really, really, concerned. If Quinn - the chairman still, isn't he? - doesn't realise what his options are when a club puts in a bid for a player with two and a half years left on his contract, they could be in big trouble.


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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #93 on: January 21, 2011, 09:36:42 AM »
Fistface has been bleating that apparently that nasty Mr Houllier didn't phone him up first.  He sounds like a spotty teenager left at home while his popular ex-girlfriend is getting fingered by the school rugby captain.

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #94 on: January 21, 2011, 09:39:46 AM »
The whole phone call thing is a little bit petty isn't it? I thought it was all handled through chief execs and the likes of the shady fella at Liverpool that do the deals their managers want. Maybe Arry, Bruce et al still ring each other up, but I am sure they don't broker deals between each other.

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #95 on: January 21, 2011, 09:44:16 AM »
Shame we're not playing Sunderland tomorrow at Villa Park

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #96 on: January 21, 2011, 09:45:15 AM »
I don't know if he was tapped up and I prefer to believe Villa's version of events, however IF he was then they still have to get over it. Let's face it enough of our players have been.
And though it doesn't make it right, it's the world we live in and we can either compete for that edge or be at a disadvantage.

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #97 on: January 21, 2011, 10:10:04 AM »
We made them a very good offer and they took it.  They didn't have to and we didn't mess them about like Citeh or 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' did to us.  The fact that they have to give 6 mill to Spurs is quite frankly not our problem.

I think alot of this is Fistface and Quinn realising that their current league position is an over achievement so they're getting their fans onside by making us out to be the baddie - 6th is as good as it's ever going to get.

So when the tumble down the table comes in the coming months all their inbred supporters will be able to blame us and they'll be no heat on either Fistface or Quinn. It'll always be'' if it wasn't for the Villa we could have done this or that'.  A perfect excuse and just how Fistface likes it.

And fair play because it seems that so far the idiots have taken their bait.

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #98 on: January 21, 2011, 10:20:40 AM »
I think Sunderland fans need to cast their minds back to before Christmas (22nd December to be exact) to understand that the writing was on the wall:

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Niall Quinn, the Sunderland chairman, has warned the days of heavy investment in transfer fees will be over if attendances continue to dwindle at the Stadium of Light.

A crowd of only 35,101 watched Saturday's 1-0 Premier League victory over Bolton, about 13,000 below capacity, despite Steve Bruce's team being unbeaten at home in the league so far this season, a run that has lifted them to sixth.

While Quinn acknowledges the ongoing financial difficulties for some supporters, he claims many are watching games illegally in pubs accessing foreign television channels and the former striker is concerned about the implications.

Indeed, the chairman said he would no longer be able to argue a case for the owner, Ellis Short, to fund the kind of deals that brought the record £13m signing, Asamoah Gyan, or his £10m strike partner, Darren Bent, to Wearside if the figures do not add up.
Quinn told the Sunderland Echo: "The plan was always to improve and while we are doing that on the pitch, off the pitch the lifeblood of the club is just starting to get to a worrying area.

"I am not here to be the guardian angel of the club and protect it at all costs. We have to be realistic and it would be a shame to start downsizing. But I wouldn't be doing my job if I recommended that we should be paying big sums for players and the people weren't supporting the club."I know through my time as a player that you do better with bigger houses and it's a better occasion all-round. I thought if we were in the top half of the Premier League, we would be getting crowds well into the 40,000s. The reality is we are in the mid-30s.

"I am not having a go at people who are economically challenged, but I know there are friends of mine who say it's easier to go to the pub and have a few drinks with their mates and walk home afterwards. But these games are shown illegally.

"I don't want to alarm people but, for me, there are a few question marks. I'm not saying we are perfect, but I always thought I could rely on the support of a massive crowd."

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #99 on: January 21, 2011, 10:39:13 AM »
Fistface has been bleating that apparently that nasty Mr Houllier didn't phone him up first.  He sounds like a spotty teenager left at home while his popular ex-girlfriend is getting fingered by the school rugby captain.

This is really puzzling me.  WTF has it got to do with Bruce?  Was it GH who sent the offer and did that offer go to Bruce? Of course it wasn't and didn't. 

Bruce is looking for any angle to discredit Villa to deflect his club's inability to keep their star player.  Regardless of Bent's ambition to get away they still could have said "no deal" regardless of what was offered.  They named their price and we matched it.  If they didn't consult Bruce about it that's their concern and has nothing to do with us.

Offline Somebody_Told_Me

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2011, 10:42:35 AM »
Not to mention the big headed tw@t is now robbing Ricardo Fuller of us(stoke). I feel sick!

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2011, 10:50:03 AM »
Hang on.  I thought the official  sequence of events was - we made a bid, they accepted it, they then told Bent about our interest, and he then submitted a transfer request to speed things up. Think there's a bit of re-writing of history going on between Quinn and Bruce to save face with the fans.

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2011, 10:53:41 AM »
I think Sunderland fans need to cast their minds back to before Christmas (22nd December to be exact) to understand that the writing was on the wall:

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Niall Quinn, the Sunderland chairman, has warned the days of heavy investment in transfer fees will be over if attendances continue to dwindle at the Stadium of Light.

A crowd of only 35,101 watched Saturday's 1-0 Premier League victory over Bolton, about 13,000 below capacity, despite Steve Bruce's team being unbeaten at home in the league so far this season, a run that has lifted them to sixth.

While Quinn acknowledges the ongoing financial difficulties for some supporters, he claims many are watching games illegally in pubs accessing foreign television channels and the former striker is concerned about the implications.

Indeed, the chairman said he would no longer be able to argue a case for the owner, Ellis Short, to fund the kind of deals that brought the record £13m signing, Asamoah Gyan, or his £10m strike partner, Darren Bent, to Wearside if the figures do not add up.
Quinn told the Sunderland Echo: "The plan was always to improve and while we are doing that on the pitch, off the pitch the lifeblood of the club is just starting to get to a worrying area.

"I am not here to be the guardian angel of the club and protect it at all costs. We have to be realistic and it would be a shame to start downsizing. But I wouldn't be doing my job if I recommended that we should be paying big sums for players and the people weren't supporting the club."I know through my time as a player that you do better with bigger houses and it's a better occasion all-round. I thought if we were in the top half of the Premier League, we would be getting crowds well into the 40,000s. The reality is we are in the mid-30s.

"I am not having a go at people who are economically challenged, but I know there are friends of mine who say it's easier to go to the pub and have a few drinks with their mates and walk home afterwards. But these games are shown illegally.

"I don't want to alarm people but, for me, there are a few question marks. I'm not saying we are perfect, but I always thought I could rely on the support of a massive crowd."


I wondered when this was gonna be brought up about Sunderland's attendances? I remembered ready this article with Quinn at the time. It'll be interesting to see if Sunderland spend their money or if they just balance their books. As for attendances I'd have thought the majority of clubs will see attendances fall due to the recession (think it'll only get worse). Has anyone got the PL / FL crowd stats? I wonder what the trend is?

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #103 on: January 21, 2011, 10:54:14 AM »
Bottom line is, you can have mirky agents whispering in a player's ear for six months if you like... the crucial element in all transfer deals is the bid. No-one can make a bid or accept a bid from anywhere else except club to club. So for Sunderland to feign shock at the speed of the whole deal is a bit rich - it happened so quickly because they accepted our bid so readily.

And Quinn, as chairman, would be the first to know about an official bid. So I'm not sure where his shock and surprise is coming from. Chairman and manager must believe Sunderland fans are very, very naive.

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Re: The hypocrisy of Steve Bruce
« Reply #104 on: January 21, 2011, 11:00:42 AM »
Fistface has been bleating that apparently that nasty Mr Houllier didn't phone him up first.  He sounds like a spotty teenager left at home while his popular ex-girlfriend is getting fingered by the school rugby captain.

Spot on

Yesterday he was bleating about not getting a phone call and sounded like a really plain bird whose boyfriend had had "tops and fingers" then moved on to her best mate because she had a better rack.

Twat

 


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