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Offline Mazrim

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2011, 09:45:37 PM »
Can Carew be bothered!?!? you dont half talk a load of old scuttering arse.

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #61 on: January 17, 2011, 09:46:22 PM »
Downing is not that good a player, so if we can get good money for him, sell him.

A.Young and Albrighton down the wings will supply the strikers.

Downing makes Ireland look like Andy Townsend when it comes to putting effort into a tackle. I wouldn't mind if he had the ability of, for example, a Merson where you didn't mind him not tackling because you knew he could win you the match at any point. Downing can't do that.

You're entitled to that view but its typical of far too many Villa fans who seem to despise players who maybe, to use an 80's phrase "don't get their shorts dirty".  He's our top scorer, has waded in with a few assists and whilst I do accept is a complete fanny provides so much to this team in technical ability.  Football is so much less about tackling these days and so much more about technique and ball retention, why would we want to get rid of one of the players we have who has both?!! Staggered by peoples attitudes to him.  I'm firmly in the he needs to stay camp.

Offline not3bad

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #62 on: January 17, 2011, 09:46:34 PM »
£10m is what we paid for him.

With an extra £2 m depending on appearences.  How many appearences?

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2011, 09:48:41 PM »
Sky Sports News reporting that sources 'close to the player' say that there is a genuine interest in the player from Liverpool.  Hope it is just an agent doing his job i.e. looking to get a new contract from Villa as opposed to Downing starting to pack his bags.

We shouldn't sell a major player until the summer.  Let's get Bent, Adam with a couple of others and see if we can't break into the top 8 by the end of the season - it might help to pursuade a couple of the doubters.

We've brought Makoun and hopefully will be signing Bent, Last thing we want to do is sell one of our better performers

Better performers? Really? I've been to every home game this season and can confidently say one of our better performers he is not.

You should try watching games with your eyes open, Its a whole different experience

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2011, 09:50:04 PM »
I hope we keep him, been a good player this season, probably our best and most consistent. He'll chip in and score a few but most of all he'll be great for Bent.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #65 on: January 17, 2011, 09:53:13 PM »
Downing is not that good a player, so if we can get good money for him, sell him.

A.Young and Albrighton down the wings will supply the strikers.

Downing makes Ireland look like Andy Townsend when it comes to putting effort into a tackle. I wouldn't mind if he had the ability of, for example, a Merson where you didn't mind him not tackling because you knew he could win you the match at any point. Downing can't do that.

You're entitled to that view but its typical of far too many Villa fans who seem to despise players who maybe, to use an 80's phrase "don't get their shorts dirty".  He's our top scorer, has waded in with a few assists and whilst I do accept is a complete fanny provides so much to this team in technical ability.  Football is so much less about tackling these days and so much more about technique and ball retention, why would we want to get rid of one of the players we have who has both?!! Staggered by peoples attitudes to him.  I'm firmly in the he needs to stay camp.
Who gave the ball away on the edge of our box yesterday that led to the attack they scored from, yes he is technicaly decent, has very goood touch and can pick a pass, but drifts out of games, gives the ball up easily and has too many games without contributing. He is the typical luxury player and i will be glad to see the back of him.

Offline peter w

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #66 on: January 17, 2011, 09:54:40 PM »
Pipped me to it Dave. He's as bad as Emule when it comes to scoring for us.

You can be a right ass sometimes.

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2011, 09:55:59 PM »
Downing is not that good a player, so if we can get good money for him, sell him.

A.Young and Albrighton down the wings will supply the strikers.

Downing makes Ireland look like Andy Townsend when it comes to putting effort into a tackle. I wouldn't mind if he had the ability of, for example, a Merson where you didn't mind him not tackling because you knew he could win you the match at any point. Downing can't do that.

You're entitled to that view but its typical of far too many Villa fans who seem to despise players who maybe, to use an 80's phrase "don't get their shorts dirty".  He's our top scorer, has waded in with a few assists and whilst I do accept is a complete fanny provides so much to this team in technical ability.  Football is so much less about tackling these days and so much more about technique and ball retention, why would we want to get rid of one of the players we have who has both?!! Staggered by peoples attitudes to him.  I'm firmly in the he needs to stay camp.
Who gave the ball away on the edge of our box yesterday that led to the attack they scored from, yes he is technicaly decent, has very goood touch and can pick a pass, but drifts out of games, gives the ball up easily and has too many games without contributing. He is the typical luxury player and i will be glad to see the back of him.

The defence rests m'lud.

Offline Bad English

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #68 on: January 17, 2011, 09:57:56 PM »
Pipped me to it Dave. He's as bad as Emule when it comes to scoring for us.

You can be a right ass sometimes.
As the French say, "Fuck moi ! C'est l'hôpital qui se fout de la charité"

Offline peter w

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #69 on: January 17, 2011, 10:03:19 PM »
Pipped me to it Dave. He's as bad as Emule when it comes to scoring for us.

You can be a right ass sometimes.
As the French say, "Fuck moi ! C'est l'hôpital qui se fout de la charité"

As Londoners are quited observed to say, 'Cor, fack me, lav a dack ap me apples and pears. Twas only a pun Mary Poppins'.

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #70 on: January 17, 2011, 10:22:40 PM »
Downing is not that good a player, so if we can get good money for him, sell him.

A.Young and Albrighton down the wings will supply the strikers.

Downing makes Ireland look like Andy Townsend when it comes to putting effort into a tackle. I wouldn't mind if he had the ability of, for example, a Merson where you didn't mind him not tackling because you knew he could win you the match at any point. Downing can't do that.

You're entitled to that view but its typical of far too many Villa fans who seem to despise players who maybe, to use an 80's phrase "don't get their shorts dirty".  He's our top scorer, has waded in with a few assists and whilst I do accept is a complete fanny provides so much to this team in technical ability.  Football is so much less about tackling these days and so much more about technique and ball retention, why would we want to get rid of one of the players we have who has both?!! Staggered by peoples attitudes to him.  I'm firmly in the he needs to stay camp.
Who gave the ball away on the edge of our box yesterday that led to the attack they scored from, yes he is technicaly decent, has very goood touch and can pick a pass, but drifts out of games, gives the ball up easily and has too many games without contributing. He is the typical luxury player and i will be glad to see the back of him.

The defence rests m'lud.

Who pressed the GK to make the mistake for Gabby's chance in the first minute and also pressed the defenders which gave us possession at the edge of the area which came back to him for his first shot just wide a few minutes later.

Offline Bad English

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #71 on: January 17, 2011, 10:53:14 PM »
Pipped me to it Dave. He's as bad as Emule when it comes to scoring for us.

You can be a right ass sometimes.
As the French say, "Fuck moi ! C'est l'hôpital qui se fout de la charité"

As Londoners are quited observed to say, 'Cor, fack me, lav a dack ap me apples and pears. Twas only a pun Mary Poppins'.
So it was! I am that used to you getting annoyed about Heskey bashing, I completely missed it.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2011, 10:55:23 PM by Bad English »

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #72 on: January 17, 2011, 11:13:31 PM »
Downing divides opinion, i really thought he had turned the corner for the first few months of the season and he seems to have gone back to last seasons performances. He is most effective on the left wing.
When he is playing well he takes defenders on and uses his pace, i havent seen him do that for months. I have to admit I have never been a great fan but do recognise that he is a player with ability but does not show it enough.

Offline eastie

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #73 on: January 18, 2011, 06:20:11 AM »
Downing has been much improved this season and I would be sorry to lose him if he goes , but I can't really see him leaving.

Offline nick harper

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Re: Downing off to Red Scouse?
« Reply #74 on: January 18, 2011, 07:50:32 AM »
His best positon is wide left without question but circumstances and some strange decisions by the manager has meant he hasn't played there often enough. Our best performances have come when he has played there - Man Uts being an obvious example.

 


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