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Offline eastie

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2011, 11:14:38 AM »
Villadawg we are only 2 wins off the top 10- judge him at the end of the season, we both have hugely different opinions on the previous manager but maybe just maybe he realised he had taken the team as far as be could and that he felt the team this season without milner would struggle much more.

Some people talk as though we are miles adrift , the table is so tight that any team who puts a decent run together could move up 10 places.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2011, 11:16:35 AM by east19 »

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2011, 12:42:51 PM »
Some people talk as though we are miles adrift , the table is so tight that any team who puts a decent run together could move up 10 places.
True, but it would be nice to look as through we're capable of winning a match - let alone putting a decent run together.

Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2011, 12:51:58 PM »
Villadawg we are only 2 wins off the top 10- judge him at the end of the season, we both have hugely different opinions on the previous manager but maybe just maybe he realised he had taken the team as far as be could and that he felt the team this season without milner would struggle much more.

Some people talk as though we are miles adrift , the table is so tight that any team who puts a decent run together could move up 10 places.

I just look at the numbers. All the conjecture about relationships with players, style of play, potential transfers, tactics and the like is all very interesting but my opinions are rooted in what I see in the numbers/results

When I first began voicing my concern on here, people were saying we are only a couple of wins off top 4/5, now it is 7 points from top 10 even if all the other teams stood still.

I am not talking as though we are miles adrift, I am talking as though we are the worst performing team in the league since Gerard took over. Looking at it purely from a results perspective, we will be relegated unless something changes. If you take into consideration the 3 teams we've beaten (wolves, blackpool, wba) it doesn't look any better.

I have no choice but to wait and see what happens.  If Dave had sorted the CEO job out for me and I were the one making the decisions, he would have been sacked after the Sunderland game because I don't see where that run of 2 or 3 wins is going to come from and I wouldn't be willing to risk it any further on a man who's record after half a season at the Villa is worse than Billy McNeill's.

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #93 on: January 14, 2011, 01:00:00 PM »
For all our talk about only being x points from x position, we only need to be 1 point from safety, or even less given our goal difference, after 38 games for the worst to happen.

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #94 on: January 14, 2011, 01:04:32 PM »
Three successive sixth-place finishes in the Premier League - O'Neill......and we let him walk.  ::)

Rather he jumped out of his Pram after his Toys.

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #95 on: January 14, 2011, 01:35:52 PM »
Villadawg we are only 2 wins off the top 10- judge him at the end of the season, we both have hugely different opinions on the previous manager but maybe just maybe he realised he had taken the team as far as be could and that he felt the team this season without milner would struggle much more.

Some people talk as though we are miles adrift , the table is so tight that any team who puts a decent run together could move up 10 places.

I just look at the numbers. All the conjecture about relationships with players, style of play, potential transfers, tactics and the like is all very interesting but my opinions are rooted in what I see in the numbers/results

When I first began voicing my concern on here, people were saying we are only a couple of wins off top 4/5, now it is 7 points from top 10 even if all the other teams stood still.

I am not talking as though we are miles adrift, I am talking as though we are the worst performing team in the league since Gerard took over. Looking at it purely from a results perspective, we will be relegated unless something changes. If you take into consideration the 3 teams we've beaten (wolves, blackpool, wba) it doesn't look any better.

I have no choice but to wait and see what happens.  If Dave had sorted the CEO job out for me and I were the one making the decisions, he would have been sacked after the Sunderland game because I don't see where that run of 2 or 3 wins is going to come from and I wouldn't be willing to risk it any further on a man who's record after half a season at the Villa is worse than Billy McNeill's.

We keep hearing about these fans who want immediate success, I just wish you was Alex Ferguson's boss back in the 80's, you would have done us all a favour!

Offline eastie

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #96 on: January 14, 2011, 02:40:07 PM »
If randy was going to axe houllier I agree it would have been after the Sunderland game, there would be no point now he is starting to bring in his own players- we will stick with him now and I think a win at blues would really lift the club no end , players and fans alike- we were the better team against them in the cup and if our players are up for the battle we will win.

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #97 on: January 14, 2011, 03:29:15 PM »
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The difference between o neill and houllier

One is an arrogant, tricolore loving, egotistical tosser - the other is a Frenchman?

Offline sfx412

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #98 on: January 14, 2011, 04:28:16 PM »
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The difference between o neill and houllier

One is an arrogant, tricolore loving, egotistical tosser - the other is a Frenchman?

I liked that :)

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #99 on: January 14, 2011, 06:16:46 PM »
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The difference between o neill and houllier

About 3 years in age.

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #100 on: January 14, 2011, 09:04:37 PM »
Houlier has alienated more fans in a four months than MON did in 4 years, that is some achievement

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #101 on: January 14, 2011, 09:35:58 PM »
Hopefully tomorrow it will be Makoun and Sidwell!

Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #102 on: January 14, 2011, 09:53:27 PM »
Hopefully tomorrow it will be Makoun and Sidwell!

Oh Damn, I was hoping we would finally have a replacement for Milner.

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #103 on: January 14, 2011, 10:38:56 PM »
Hopefully tomorrow it will be Makoun and Sidwell!


Oh Damn, I was hoping we would finally have a replacement for Milner.

Milner was a good record signing bought as a winger

I'm comparing 2 midfielders that the managers bought for around the same price.

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Re: The difference between o neill and houllier
« Reply #104 on: January 14, 2011, 10:55:34 PM »
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The difference between o neill and houllier

One is an arrogant, tricolore loving, egotistical tosser - the other is a Frenchman?

I liked that :)

One of these days one of you pair will add something interresting to the debate but I'm not holding my breath.

 


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