Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[kippaxvilla2]

By the way, anyone who thinks there is tons of cash to spend this month need to look at that lot potentially bringing in Keane ahead of us for £7m.  Coz like it or not, he would be exactly the sort of signing we need right now.

[Loxton01]

Tonight was so so poor and so very predictable after the Heskey miss.

GH has to go now. He has the players back and we get worse not better. A point against a poor Chelsea and were suddenly back on track. Well if we had beat sunderland playing well then maybe but Houllier your kidding none of the Villa fans.

We cant stop conceding goals, we cant score but even more concerning is we are not creating chances how many times tonight did players have the opportunity to shoot but would rather pass. Those traits just suggest relegation.

Against Spurs and Sunderland half time teamtalks chance to make a difference what has houllier done - fuck all we have got worse!!!

He plays a quality winger upfront and a striker on the wing. Downing amazingly remains on the pitch week in week out despite making no effort and going missing when the chips are down.

Players are clearly not confident with his ideas but there is no sign of him making a difference!!

He has led us into the relgation zone for the first time in 8 years and we are most likely to lose to our dearest rivals again in 10 days time. Please randy general stop tis now and sack this fraud now.

We are not in france or continetnal europe playing pretty passing football. We need desire passion guts and players who are willing to die for the shirt to get us out of this mess. Gerrard Houllier cannot lead this- please sack him now

[pauliewalnuts]

In all fairness though... there are certain times when you want the owner to keep his mouth shut and not interfere but there are also times were you want to see strong leadership from the owner.

I think that's a fair point.

As I said, we desperately, desperately need some leadership at the club - there's none on the pitch, there's nothing at all from the bench.

[tarzansbrother]

I am seriously hurting. But to get rid of Houllier now would be suicide. By the time he was replaced we would of lost another window. And who is to say the players would want to play for him ?? We have got to buy quality. And quickly. This is now about serious funding ................

Its about sacking our inept unfit manager. Hopefully he is on a plane back to France now, and he can throw Gary Macallister out on the the way the useless fuck.

[Salsa Party Animal]

I say get Gerard to work with the board and be football director and improve the club and leave the management to someone else maybe Martin Jol.

Imagine the combined knowledge of players and football if they work together.

I think that is the best solution.

[Chris Harte]

Tonights game was not lost by the players on the pitch , it was lost by decisions (or rather lack of them) off the pitch.

In a nutshell.

[midnite]

And why the hell can't brad friedel distribute the frigging football properly when he kicks the fookin football!!!!

[TimTheVillain]

I say get Gerard to work with the board and be football director and improve the club and leave the management to someone else maybe Martin Jol.

Imagine the combined knowledge of players and football if they work together.

I think that is the best solution.

I know where you're coming from, but a new Manager will want to do it himself.

In effect Houllier as Director of Football and they never work.

HE must go even if it means work unfinished I'm afraid.

[kippaxvilla2]

Just seen the sending off, fukin stupid by Heskey.

[mr woo]

Upstairs are clueless. Thats part of the problem. No leadership at the top, just a philanthropic mute american soccer fan, his YTS trainee and an army General who disappears from message boards when the going gets tough.

Bloody hell Adam, that's a bit harsh!

We whinged for years at an interfering chairman, now you're having a go at one who leaves his manager to his own devices.

Accuse the board of making a poor appointment, but the performance of the playing staff is the responsibilty of the manager alone.

In all fairness though... there are certain times when you want the owner to keep his mouth shut and not interfere but there are also times were you want to see strong leadership from the owner.

There is nothing coming out from the top, we need to know what on earth is going on, just something.

You're right of course.

However, I have faith that Randy will act appropriately and as necessary.  It's just his way not to hog the limelight when doing it, that doesn't make his leadership 'weak' at all. I'm sure the message will come across loud and clear to those on the receiving end.

[kippaxvilla2]

2 attempts on target at home.

[pauliewalnuts]

On the bright side.

a quid on first goal being 80-90 minutes paid me 21 quid.

Bit of an anxious moment, though, clock showed 79 as it went in, but credited at 80, so they've paid out.

*thumbs up*

[midnite]

Right. I'm off to play some call of duty. Work off some of this anger!!

[Chris Harte]

Just seen the sending off, fukin stupid by Heskey.

Stupid, yes. But I'll agree with Hansen by saying it looked as though he was clobbered in the challenge.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

I am seriously hurting. But to get rid of Houllier now would be suicide. By the time he was replaced we would of lost another window. And who is to say the players would want to play for him ?? We have got to buy quality. And quickly. This is now about serious funding ................

Its about sacking our inept unfit manager. Hopefully he is on a plane back to France now, and he can throw Gary Macallister out on the the way the useless fuck.

Not protecting him. But he was manager against Man utd, Wolves and Chelsea. If we stay with these players we are gonna go down. Three quality players in and we can still survive. Changing him and with no window and its a dead cert ..........