Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Not Big Sam, not ever. If Houllier goes there can be plenty of other options.

[hawkeye]

Chris Houghton anyone? or a temp manager to trouble shoot, there is enough in that squad to get us out of trouble I dont think GH can though

[eastie]

If randy does sack him he has to have someone ready to come straight in - we cannot afford to not make signings and be managerless - I think hodgson may be out tomorrow as well - it is crisis time!

[TheTimVilla]

We are so fucked. Time to act Randy.

Well, I'll give it a go but no promises. ;o)

First time we've lost back to back home league games for over 3 years. First time we've been in the bottom 3 since 2003.

[Shay]

I always thought we were far too good to go down- now I'm not sure we have what it takes (BALLS) to stay up.
Houllier must go!!! The man is utterly clueless

[Villa'Zawg]

Get rid.

[mj]

We. Are. Fucked.

[Mellin]

first time in the bottom 3 for 8 years... EIGHT YEARS

I can't remember, but was that after 21 games, or say...ten?

Lerner needs to be careful with how long he holds on to this dud, because eventually he'll become accountable. Dangerous territory, considering how well he's done so far.

[Goldie.7]

Disgraceful. Great result followed by a shit result. Time and time again it's happened this season.

I never thought relegation would be a reality until I saw us in the bottom 3.

Everyone around us winnning - why are we not showing any fight?

I don't get how anyone thinks it was good result, we were wining with 7 minutes to go? We conceded all the goals the first and the two late one's because players made mistakes!

[Fergal]

If randy does sack him he has to have someone ready to come straight in - we cannot afford to not make signings and be managerless - I think hodgson may be out tomorrow as well - it is crisis time!

He should fall on his sword...

[ExclDawg]

I don't want us to be one of those clubs who sack the manager every time he has a few bad results but this clown has to go.

Agree completely.  I'm all about continutity and not having knee-jerk reactions ... but you almost have to be TRYING if you take a top-6 team and put them in the relegation zone in less than 6 months.

[phantom limb]

We're paying the price for sitting around during the summer, pausing only to sell our best player and bring in a guy who doesn't want to play for us (and isn't playing for us) as his replacement. While other teams were buying players like Gyan and Van Der Vaart, we did absolutely fuck all.

Unless Houllier has a shit hot transfer window then we're going down. I'm pissed off but I still can't see the point of sacking him and bringing in someone like Allardyce.

[PONGO49]

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[eamonn]

After the red card he played for a scoreless draw, hence the lack of subs. But Albrighton for one of the lacklustre Downing, Gabby or Young would have given us a fresh outlet. Was he too afraid to bring off one of the big players? Wouldn't be surprised. I was calling for changes 10 mins before Heskey got himself sent off - seriously, it was like MON without the backbone.

No confidence or conviction going forward, Young always going on the outside before over-hitting a cross or playing for a free. And this Sunderland side were bog standard.
Creatively void without the nippers - not Houllier's fault but his training regime has not made these players improve their passing, vision and movement which we badly missed with O'Neill. Overhauling/implementing a scouting system aside we seem to have regressed in every other way. It may be only four months but give him another four months, and going by his recent record, he will take us down. 

[Dribbler]

Oh dear, Randy has to either back Houllier massively in this transfer window or get rid of him now. I'm going to do an about face and say time to go Mr Houllier, I like you, but you haven't delivered.

Big Sam suddenly looks an attractive proposition.

Is that how low we have sunk?

I think it is, whilst there are many other managers i would prefer to him in the long term we need someone that can turn things around now with the players we have. That man is Big Sam. I would even worry about bringing Jol in at this time, in the summer yes, but bringing him in now would i fear put him in a similar situation to Houllier.