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Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1950 on: January 25, 2011, 06:31:14 PM »
For those of us who were involved in that "is GH changing our style debate" and thought he was, it's good news from the world of statistics:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thefootballtacticsblog/2011/01/ruthless_chelsea_expose_predic.html .

Third lowest number of long balls attempted, beaten only by 'perfect goal' seekers Arsenal and Man City. If that's not a shift in emphasis from the MON days, I don't know what is.

You might be right but that table on its own doesn't explain whether we are using the long ball more or less often than before. We might have a low total number of long passes because we haven't had much possession and our percentage of long passes to short passes may be worse than many other clubs.


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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1951 on: January 25, 2011, 06:34:51 PM »
That table shows Stoke below Manchester United...Do Stoke play better football?

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1952 on: January 25, 2011, 06:37:01 PM »
I'll just blindly scream at the claret and blue shirts "GET THE FUCKING BALL IN THE NET", and ignore the stats. Thanks anyway.

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1953 on: January 25, 2011, 06:43:14 PM »
That table shows Stoke below Manchester United...Do Stoke play better football?

No, and the stats are blind. No doubt Man Utd play accurate long passes which Stoke's players can't do, so their long balls are more likely to be 'into the mixer'. Stats are useless without a reference to real life. I just thought it reflected a change that I think I've seen on the pitch, that's all.

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1954 on: January 25, 2011, 11:09:28 PM »
back to back wins in the league another away win, things are better, amazing how a full squad helps.

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1955 on: January 25, 2011, 11:42:57 PM »
some one explain Downing on the right  Gabby on the left ?

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1956 on: January 25, 2011, 11:50:57 PM »
some one explain Downing on the right  Gabby on the left ?

Six points explains it.

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1957 on: January 25, 2011, 11:52:27 PM »
some one explain Downing on the right  Gabby on the left ?

I wonder if part of it is that he knows Gabby's pace and willingness to cover plenty of ground will be useful in helping out the LB behind him in what has been a problem position of late

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1958 on: January 25, 2011, 11:57:09 PM »
The goal made a world of difference to Gabby.

Offline glasses

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1959 on: January 26, 2011, 12:00:53 AM »
Im still not Gerards biggest fan. I think I just dont like him. I may warm to him, I may not. Cant explain it really. I still love the club. I hope we can gather some momentum with the recent good results. Things are looking up at last, thanks to some good performances and a bit of belief.

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1960 on: January 26, 2011, 12:01:44 AM »
some one explain Downing on the right  Gabby on the left ?

Downing's played on the right for a lot of his villa career, pretty much all of it last season.

Gabby on the left isn't ideal and dosen't suit him but we've got good draws at Chelsea and SHA playing this way and a brilliant 6 points this week so I'm happy for this to continue away from home, certainly he'll play there at Old Trafford next week.

For the rest of our home games though, most of it which are winnable, I'd prefer a more attacking 4-4-2 so Bent and Gabby/Heskey upfront, Albrighton on the right, Young on the left and two from NRC, Petrvo, Downing and Makoun in the centre.

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1961 on: January 26, 2011, 12:03:43 AM »
For those of us who were involved in that "is GH changing our style debate" and thought he was, it's good news from the world of statistics:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thefootballtacticsblog/2011/01/ruthless_chelsea_expose_predic.html .

Third lowest number of long balls attempted, beaten only by 'perfect goal' seekers Arsenal and Man City. If that's not a shift in emphasis from the MON days, I don't know what is.

To be honest, I always thought the long ball tag when applied to O'Neill was very unfair.

We weren't reliant on the hoof particularly, it was more about the balls whacked in from the wings. Not as easy to do as the hoof, but not much less predictable maybe, but really, not long ball at all.

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1962 on: January 26, 2011, 12:10:19 AM »
For those of us who were involved in that "is GH changing our style debate" and thought he was, it's good news from the world of statistics:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thefootballtacticsblog/2011/01/ruthless_chelsea_expose_predic.html .

Third lowest number of long balls attempted, beaten only by 'perfect goal' seekers Arsenal and Man City. If that's not a shift in emphasis from the MON days, I don't know what is.

To be honest, I always thought the long ball tag when applied to O'Neill was very unfair.

We weren't reliant on the hoof particularly, it was more about the balls whacked in from the wings. Not as easy to do as the hoof, but not much less predictable maybe, but really, not long ball at all.
one big difference is that Friedel often throws the ball or gives it to the backs, under MON that was rare

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1963 on: January 26, 2011, 12:21:28 AM »
some one explain Downing on the right  Gabby on the left ?

Cutting on on their stronger foot, Like Gabby in the first 30 seconds against SHA.

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Re: Gerard Houllier
« Reply #1964 on: January 29, 2011, 08:35:45 PM »
Since losing to Sunderland at home we have played 5 games with 4 wins and 1 draw and break club transfer record and add 3 players and got rid of Sidwell, Davies and I think the pressure is off for GH for now. Phew. 2 more wins on the trot could see us in top 8. Maybe he isn't too bad now.

 


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