Gerard Houllier

[villa1]

Where's this list of Carew's then?

I think out of the whole article that's the only thing I wasn't aware of.

[Villa'Zawg]

Where's this list of Carew's then?

I think out of the whole article that's the only thing I wasn't aware of.

I don't know if it is true but this is supposedly his list of "best managers" from a Norwegian newspaper.


1.Nils Arne Eggen

2.Capello

3.Benitez

4.O`Neill

5.del Bosque

6.Cuper

7.Houllier


Has he played for all of these?

[Californian Villain]

A fair assessment?

The Guardian - Fans' fractured faith..... - Clicky

A very fair, and accurate summing up in my view.

[Nev]

Not too much to argue with although, personally, I'd give Ireland a smack in the mouth rather than an arm around the shoulder.

Interesting that the Dunne training ground spat is now being accepted as having happened, if not the scale of the row being confirmed.

Reconciliation is one thing, but the restoration of any of the "Bodymoor Three" to the team is a huge risk considering their performances so far this season. If they were excluded for footballing reasons is it on that basis that they are under consideration for recall? And does our dressing room need any further disruption from disgruntled players?

[Percy McCarthy]

Not too much to argue with although, personally, I'd give Ireland a smack in the mouth rather than an arm around the shoulder.

Interesting that the Dunne training ground spat is now being accepted as having happened, if not the scale of the row being confirmed.

Reconciliation is one thing, but the restoration of any of the "Bodymoor Three" to the team is a huge risk considering their performances so far this season. If they were excluded for footballing reasons is it on that basis that they are under consideration for recall? And does our dressing room need any further disruption from disgruntled players?

According to the Mail online, he has been ordered to reinstate them by Lerner and Faulkner.

[WikiVilla]

Can't believe that
They'd be undermining houllier in a very public way if that's true which to me would say they've lost confidence in him and he's facing the chop imminently

[Nev]

Not too much to argue with although, personally, I'd give Ireland a smack in the mouth rather than an arm around the shoulder.

Interesting that the Dunne training ground spat is now being accepted as having happened, if not the scale of the row being confirmed.

Reconciliation is one thing, but the restoration of any of the "Bodymoor Three" to the team is a huge risk considering their performances so far this season. If they were excluded for footballing reasons is it on that basis that they are under consideration for recall? And does our dressing room need any further disruption from disgruntled players?

According to the Mail online, he has been ordered to reinstate them by Lerner and Faulkner.

Not sure how much truth there is in this, but I'm not one who will disregard tabloid rumours (football ones anyway). When many on here poured scorn on the Dunne training ground story, I did point out that stories such as this are rarely without foundation. I hope it's not true though, this sort of inteference harks back to the days of big bad Doug.

My own view is that among the many problems at Villa, Faulkner is a major one. Of course, this is based purely on suspicion and I have absolutely no grounds or evidence to back this up whatsoever and this includes my view that O'Neil would still be manager if Faulkner wasn't around.

[eastie]

If true that Lerner and Faulkner have ordered GED to reinstate Carew, dunne and Ireland he should resign- I doubt they would be stupid enough to interfere in a managers selections but if they did then I would nit want either Faulkner or Lerner at this club!

A manager has to be allowed to manage, I wonder if o neill walked over interference from Faulkner- I hope GED has the balls to kick Carew irfland and dunne out and that lerner shows some balls in backing him-questions are now being asked of Lerner by several people and his halo maybe slipping- now is the time to give the manager the cash and back him totally having decided to stick with him.

The position we are in you either totally back him or sack him and no in between measures- he needs a lot of cash to rebuild and should be given it if they are backing him.

[ROBBO]

Although we can usually take the tabloids with a pinch of salt it has now bben widely reported. There is something wrong at mill or Villa not sure what to believe any more, this i do know, when your facing the biggest challenge for years everyone has to be on the same page. If there are troublemakers at Villa kick them out now usually it is the case of the vocal minority having sway over the silent majority. We or Lerner will lose a lot of money by doing it but we could lose a lot more by keeping them.

[PeterWithe]

Where's this list of Carew's then?

I think out of the whole article that's the only thing I wasn't aware of.

I don't know if it is true but this is supposedly his list of "best managers" from a Norwegian newspaper.


1.Nils Arne Eggen

2.Capello

3.Benitez

4.O`Neill

5.del Bosque

6.Cuper

7.Houllier


Has he played for all of these?

Would it be fair to say that this list would appear to be in the order of the folks who picked Carew regularly at the top ?

[Chris Smith]

Can't believe that
They'd be undermining houllier in a very public way if that's true which to me would say they've lost confidence in him and he's facing the chop imminently

I'm sure that they haven't said you have to pick Dunne and Ireland in the starting line up every week. However, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd said "we're paying these blokes over £100k a week between them and we think you should perhaps try to finfd a way to use them" while at te same time saying to the players "stop being silly buggers we're paying you over £100k a week".

[PeterWithe]

Which would seem to be a reasonable thing for the bloke funding it to say.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Which would seem to be a reasonable thing for the bloke funding it to say.

It also makes sense, We had enough of that under Mon

[eastie]

chairman should not be telling the manager anything about team selection - if they did im sure most managers would walk and houllier is a strong manager , he would not put up with it and neither should he.
all this speculation could easily be nipped in the bud by lerner saying he is totally in support of the manager - not hiding behind faulkner or the general but from the horses mouth for once, i watched john henry at liverpool and he came across brilliantly and told liverpool fans exactly as he saw it , id like more from randy even if its just once in his 4 years !

[Chris Smith]

chairman should not be telling the manager anything about team selection - if they did im sure most managers would walk and houllier is a strong manager , he would not put up with it and neither should he.
all this speculation could easily be nipped in the bud by lerner saying he is totally in support of the manager - not hiding behind faulkner or the general but from the horses mouth for once, i watched john henry at liverpool and he came across brilliantly and told liverpool fans exactly as he saw it , id like more from randy even if its just once in his 4 years !

All owners interfere in team matters as it is them who are funding it, to believe otherwise is extremely naive. They shouldn't attempt to pick the side but surely they are within their rights to encourage a manager to use the players who they are paying. It's no different from them allegedly trying to get MON to either use or sell squad players which you were entirely supportive of.