Gerard Houllier

[N'ZMAV]

Moxley hasn't used any quotes or sources there, he's just stating the obvious.

[E I Adio]

Moxley hasn't used any quotes or sources there, he's just stating the obvious.

....and making the rest up.

[old man villa fan]

Daily Right Wing Nasty Paper's view:

Gerard Houllier in trouble as Aston Villa chiefs consider under-fire Frenchman's future
By Neil Moxley

Gerard Houllier's position as manager at Aston Villa is now under review after the club's power-brokers left Eastlands in a shocked state on Tuesday evening.
Villa owner Randy Lerner and chief executive Paul Faulkner were left reeling by the manner in which Houllier's team rolled over against Manchester City and are now considering their next move.
Both Villa Park decision-makers are reluctant to call time on the Frenchman after appointing him just three-and-a-half months ago.
But with a wage bill in excess of that being spent by Champions League qualifiers Tottenham, the fact that a dreadful run of just one victory in six - the other five were defeats - has left Villa just one point above the relegation zone means that they cannot look the other way for much longer.
There will be no knee-jerk reaction to the dreadful 4-0 showing against City but the next four matches will prove crucial.
Defeat by Chelsea this Sunday is unlikely to spell the end but further reversals against Sunderland and in the FA Cup by Sheffield United would leave the 63-year-old fighting to save his job ahead of the derby against Birmingham.
 Houllier will have to plot Villa's escape route without spending too heavily in the transfer window.
The former Liverpool boss has been told he will only be able to spend money he generates in January.
At present, Werder Bremen and Leicester City are fighting over a £2.5million move for Curtis Davies but that is the only deal on the table.
Houllier was given the go-ahead to sign France Under 19 midfielder Guida Fofana from Le Havre for £800,000 and take Jamaica international Omar Cummings on trial, but the nature of Tuesday's defeat has placed the manager under the spotlight.
The Villa boss has alienated so many players that he has few options to swap and change his side.
John Carew, Richard Dunne and Stephen Ireland did not travel to Manchester. Several others, such as Habib Beye and Moustapha Salifou are also on the fringes.
Supporters are also distinctly unimpressed with the arrival of Robert Pires.

Either they make this stuff up or someone from the club's feeding out a story. Be interesting to see the players response over the next 4 games.

The reporter could have come on this site yesterday and picked the bones of the discussions going on and put them together to make the story.  I do not think there is one thing that he says that did not appear here yesterday.  That's not news.

[Concrete John]

I note it seems to be a popular opinion to get rid of these and let Houllier get his own men in. Well Im afraid I would be of the opposite opinion and say get rid of Houllier and keep our best players, get in a new manager who knows the meaning of man-management and hopefully kick on from there.

At the moment I wouldn't say it's an either/or situation - get shot of players that are disrespecting the club (because no matter who is the manager that's what it boils down to) and also change the manager if he's not good enough, which right now seems to be the case.

[tarzansbrother]

Tarzans brother I thought and said at the time that your comment about during the match thread that someone in the dugout looks like having a heart attack was a disgrace- please refer to geds abilities as a manager and stop bleating on about his previous health!

Please show the guy some respect whether you want him or not!

East 19 I think his previous health issue is a factor and a big weakness. I apologise if a remark about his heart offended you but lets be honest its what everyone is thinking when you see his lonely figure on the sidelines. I am also afraid i cannot refer to any abilities the bloke has as i aint seen none since his arrival.

[ozzjim]

I think the first part is a good point John. Those players who have been so resistant to change under Houllier should be got shot of straight away, as they are simply not the type we need to progress. Dunne, Ireland, Carew etc.

[eastie]

If randy persists with houllier as manager he must fully back him financially in the transfer Market- there can be no half measures or we are down!

You cannot say I'm giving him only what he generates and If that did happen then randy Lerner would clearly be not the man for this club- the next month is crucial and we can not have a dithering chairman!

Mr Lerner you either fully back the manager and make the full milner cash available so he has £20m at least or you sack him- anything in between and we will go down!

[Eigentor]

I am also afraid i cannot refer to any abilities the bloke has as i aint seen none since his arrival.

So his decision to change tactics in the Carling Cup tie against Blackburn -- a move which certainly out-witted Sam Allardyce, a figure portrayed as our saviour-in-waiting by some on this board -- is conveniently forgotten? What about our performance against Man Utd?

[Chris Smith]

I think Mark Hughes would be our manager if O'Neil left in May.  An appointment I wouldn't have had a problem with.  The General himself said they liked Hughes but the timing was wrong due to him being appointed Fulham's new gaffer

That's a man in charge of a club currently below us in the league where his own fans were chanting "you don't know what your doing" at him the other day.

[Chris Smith]

I can't recall a more unpopular manager than Houllier, even DOL commanded more respect

Totally disagree.

I don't think the mob turned on DOL after three months.

[ozzjim]

No but he was in the bottom 3 when we beat Wolves in early December in his first season.

[Holte L2]

I think Mark Hughes would be our manager if O'Neil left in May.  An appointment I wouldn't have had a problem with.  The General himself said they liked Hughes but the timing was wrong due to him being appointed Fulham's new gaffer

That's a man in charge of a club currently below us in the league where his own fans were chanting "you don't know what your doing" at him the other day.

I'm not interested in what Fulham's fans were chanting.  I think Hughes will get it right at Fulham, based on his ability at his previous clubs.  I don't believe Houllier will get it right on the basis he has been out of the coaching aspect of the game for too long and the  discontentment in the dressing room.

Are you telling me you'd rather have Houllier than Hughes?

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

So many of you going into blind panic wanting to sack a manager who has only been in the job a few short months the entire duration of which the transfer window is closed and he has had an unprecedented number of injuries to deal with.

Im glad the ones calling for immediate sackings are not on the board. Villa has been a relatively stable club for 40 years because for the most part we have always given our managers time compared with some others clubs I could think of. 

May I respectfully suggest some of you change your nicknames to Mike Ashley.

[Holte L2]

So many of you going into blind panic wanting to sack a manager who has only been in the job a few short months the entire duration of which the transfer window is closed and he has had an unprecedented number of injuries to deal with.

Im glad the ones calling for immediate sackings are not on the board. Villa has been a relatively stable club for 40 years because for the most part we have always given our managers time compared with some others clubs I could think of. 

May I respectfully suggest some of you change your nicknames to Mike Ashley.

This isn't a knee jerk reaction, it's just blatantly obvious this isn't going to work.  He's lost of the dressing room, his tatics are shocking, and the players are massively low in confidence and he's incapable of changing that.  That's why Lerner needs to change it now andget somebody in to lift the players before it's too late.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

I can't recall a more unpopular manager than Houllier, even DOL commanded more respect

Totally disagree.

I don't think the mob turned on DOL after three months.

I wish we had have done.