Message From Houllier

[Pat McMahon]

Let's judge him on results not his words.

Win the next two games and this will be forgotten, however a loss against the baggies and it could get ugly

It's not and nor should it be about one game, it's about the team and the effort they put in. Obviously a win would be great but if we put in a performance like the Man Utd game, where we sweated blood and created lots of chances, I think most will see it as a positive sign. Three points would be great though.

Really? A performance without the result against the Baggies could be good enough? I'm surprised.

Wake up, he's gone, get over it. If we only manage a draw on Saturday but put in a top level performance, I'll be happy. What I won't accept is another piss poor effort from the team and a manager that showed zero passion or interest, getting up from his seat, having a look around and sitting down again, without opening his mouth. Once again for the hard of thinking, 3 points will be great but as sad as it is to admit, the Albion are more than a half decent team and we'll need to produce something special compared to Monday to beat them.

Oh and just for the record, Martin O'Neill is a c**t for leaving us the way he did.

I am angry at his timing but we still don't know the full story behind it. All was apparently OK on the Saturday after his meeting with Randy and 48 hours later he was gone. I'm still puzzled by this but don't think he's a c**t

[eastie]

Whether he chose to go of his own accord or even if he had been sacked it was time for mon to go-he did a decent job here but it had run it's course and was better for all concerned that his reign ended- I do not believe he would have taken us further and witthout milner we would have been considerably weaker.

I would however have preferred mon to have gone in may rather than august- he probably realised he'd taken us as far as he could but his timing of departure somewhat ruins his reputation .

[UsualSuspect]

Let's judge him on results not his words.

Win the next two games and this will be forgotten, however a loss against the baggies and it could get ugly

Yes lets judge him on 3 wins in 13

It was a desperation appointment of a manager past his best

[Villa'Zawg]

Let's judge him on results not his words.

Win the next two games and this will be forgotten, however a loss against the baggies and it could get ugly

It's not and nor should it be about one game, it's about the team and the effort they put in. Obviously a win would be great but if we put in a performance like the Man Utd game, where we sweated blood and created lots of chances, I think most will see it as a positive sign. Three points would be great though.

Really? A performance without the result against the Baggies could be good enough? I'm surprised.

Wake up, he's gone, get over it. If we only manage a draw on Saturday but put in a top level performance, I'll be happy. What I won't accept is another piss poor effort from the team and a manager that showed zero passion or interest, getting up from his seat, having a look around and sitting down again, without opening his mouth. Once again for the hard of thinking, 3 points will be great but as sad as it is to admit, the Albion are more than a half decent team and we'll need to produce something special compared to Monday to beat them.

Oh and just for the record, Martin O'Neill is a c**t for leaving us the way he did.

Fair enough. If you get what you want from the Villa by treating the thing as a crappy fucking soap opera, where the players "sweating blood" and the manager jumping about on the sideline are what matters to you, you're welcome to it.

I concern myself with results. I don't give a flying fuck what a win looks like. I'll be there urging them on to a win and anything less will leave me disappointed. It has been and probably always will be that way for me, regardless of the opposition. Even if they are a super duper team like you seem to view the Baggies as.

As for your prissy little outburst on O'Neill and the need to "get over it", I can only say physician heal thyself. In soap opera world it is as simple as change the manager and we get pretty football and better results, in the real world it isn't that simple.

[PhilGibson]

At the moment it appears to me that Robert Pires is the embodiement of Houiller on the pitch, ambling around with a swagger that says I was once great and now I am not that interested anymore. Its like we are now the retirement home for a player and manager wanting a last visit around some of their old favourite grounds, does not matter about the results. Its not exactly unfinished business with a determination to succeed more like lets enjoy a fun jolly round the premier league.

Aston Villa welcome you to join Houiller and Pires for their farewell tour.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

At the moment it appears to me that Robert Pires is the embodiement of Houiller on the pitch, ambling around with a swagger that says I was once great and now I am not that interested anymore.

My mate pointed out that he stands like he's just shit himself.

He probably did against Arsenal.

[sfx412]

I could have sworn Dave and others made it quite clear why O'Neill left, but then if it doesn't fit your respective agenda you aren't going to believe it.
I'm not impressed with Ged so far, for all sorts of reasons but on reflection after the poor showing by all, Ged especially, I can't see that we cannot do anything other than sit and pray all goes well, hopefully when he can put a regular team out for a few weeks.
As we mostly said leaving just before the seasons kickoff was a terrible way to leave a club, moving Houllier on now wouldn't be much better.
I'd like to see how Newcastle's new man copes. It going to be hard if as indicated the players and fans aren't happy with their old managers sacking

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Fair enough. If you get what you want from the Villa by treating the thing as a crappy fucking soap opera, where the players "sweating blood" and the manager jumping about on the sideline are what matters to you, you're welcome to it.

It's far more simple than that, I want both manager and team to convince me they give a fuck. On Monday night it appeared neither did. We weren't prepared to battle for the ball and as many have mentioned, Houllier appeared more concerned with keeping warm. When he did get up on his feet, he looked around, appeared bemused and sat down again, obviously devoid of any ideas.

As I've already mentioned earlier, I really hope the post match reaction to his comments serve as a wake up call for the man. There are no easy games this season and Albion are not as poor as they used to be, far from it. If he can't get the lads charged up for Saturday he may as well give up. There's no guarantee we'll pick up all three points but we should be aiming to rip them a new arse trying. It's the minimum I expect from any Villa team.

[glasses]

I have the perfect response to his message, I will express it in song.

''Stop your messin' around,
Better think of our future,
Time to sort the team out,
Or else we'll wind up in shit,
Hou-lli, a message to Houl-li-er
a message to you...'

[Simba]

Fair enough. If you get what you want from the Villa by treating the thing as a crappy fucking soap opera, where the players "sweating blood" and the manager jumping about on the sideline are what matters to you, you're welcome to it.

It's far more simple than that, I want both manager and team to convince me they give a fuck. On Monday night it appeared neither did. We weren't prepared to battle for the ball and as many have mentioned, Houllier appeared more concerned with keeping warm. When he did get up on his feet, he looked around, appeared bemused and sat down again, obviously devoid of any ideas.

As I've already mentioned earlier, I really hope the post match reaction to his comments serve as a wake up call for the man. There are no easy games this season and Albion are not as poor as they used to be, far from it. If he can't get the lads charged up for Saturday he may as well give up. There's no guarantee we'll pick up all three points but we should be aiming to rip them a new arse trying. It's the minimum I expect from any Villa team.

What he said. Exactly.

[N'ZMAV]

Lose against Baggies and I think he'll be gone. I have the feeling the board may be a little embarressed by his comments this week and that could be the final straw.

[pauliewalnuts]

Lose against Baggies and I think he'll be gone. I have the feeling the board may be a little embarressed by his comments this week and that could be the final straw.

I don't.

However, if you look at the next six fixtures, there aren't a lot of obvious points to be had. If we don't take any on Saturday, and then things go as I suspect they might for the next four or five games, then it's going to get very touch and go.

[LionVilla]

He has a 3 year contract at 2 million a  year. Can we pay him 6m  and remove him?

[WikiVilla]

He has a 3 year contract at 2 million a  year. Can we pay him 6m  and remove him?

Pray to God there are clausing in there allowing the club to end the contract based on performance without a full payout - maybe he'll get 1 year for example

[WikiVilla]

Let's judge him on results not his words.

Win the next two games and this will be forgotten, however a loss against the baggies and it could get ugly

Yes lets judge him on 3 wins in 13

It was a desperation appointment of a manager past his best

Agree fully, it was a shocking appointment, but we are where we are.
Hope it turns it around but can't see he has the energy or appetite. And giving him the chequebook in Jan worries me.