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Offline Chris Smith

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #270 on: December 08, 2010, 01:31:45 PM »
Things are bad if we're hailing Petrov as a saviour when he returns, i'll give it 2 weeks after he's back before people are slagging him off and saying he should be subbed, and rightly so. He's a fuckin crab who does nothing defenively or offensively and he's knackered after an hour. Get NRC back in alongside Bannan is what i want to see, Ireland can do one.

Heskey has had 5 good games in about 50 and is a big lummox, he doesn't like Cuellar, Sidwell is a ginger Ireland. Theres noone to come back to improve the keeper or defence and they're a shambles.

We all have our own opinions about players but that's not really the point. It's about the manager having options, about him having the ability to change players if it isn't working or stick with them when they're going well. As it is, the selection has been almost forced on him every week due to injuries, illness and suspension. When h's got players to choose from and decisions to make we'll see what he's made of but at the moment he's just fire fighting.

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #271 on: December 08, 2010, 01:34:41 PM »
Things are bad if we're hailing Petrov as a saviour when he returns, i'll give it 2 weeks after he's back before people are slagging him off and saying he should be subbed, and rightly so. He's a fuckin crab who does nothing defenively or offensively and he's knackered after an hour. Get NRC back in alongside Bannan is what i want to see, Ireland can do one.

Heskey has had 5 good games in about 50 and is a big lummox, he doesn't like Cuellar, Sidwell is a ginger Ireland. Theres noone to come back to improve the keeper or defence and they're a shambles.

We all have our own opinions about players but that's not really the point. It's about the manager having options, about him having the ability to change players if it isn't working or stick with them when they're going well. As it is, the selection has been almost forced on him every week due to injuries, illness and suspension. When h's got players to choose from and decisions to make we'll see what he's made of but at the moment he's just fire fighting.

Exactly

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #272 on: December 08, 2010, 01:38:56 PM »
agree with most of what has been posted not happy with his statement or actions but what i take out of all this debacle is that all the kids are gaining lots of experience and next season that will only good for aston villa

What in The Championship ?

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #273 on: December 08, 2010, 02:51:52 PM »
We have only really been missing Petrov from our 1st 11, as Ireland was signed as Milner's replacement and started the season ahead of NRC in the pecking order playing alongside Stan.  Ireland's poor form and NRC's good form meant NRC became the more viable option in the middle.  Even so a lack of goals from both, mobility from Stan, NRC's poor passing and various other complaints of both meant that these 2 positions were seen by most fans as the 1st to be replaced when the window opens.  Bannan has come in and looked accomplished, so I think most fans would probably just bring back one of NRC or Stan to play alongside Bannan.  Sidwell, Heskey, Beye, Gardner, Delph, Weiman etc are all either subs or youngsters so whilst not ideal and reducing the manager's options we should have been able to cope much much better.  Albrighton, Clark, Bannan, Hogg, Herd, Sailfou, Lichaj, Lowry and Osbourne are inexperienced, but they're not exactly kids, I don't think any 1 of them are under 21, so it's not like we are turning to a bunch of 16 yr olds.

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #274 on: December 08, 2010, 03:10:11 PM »
Petrov is a good clubman, decent captain and canny footballer.

We miss him and he will make a difference when he comes back.

I can accept- to a degree- the arguments that he's not one for the future and were we looking to improve on 6th longterm, he's not the solution.

But in the short > medium term he'll have a big role to play for us.

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #275 on: December 08, 2010, 09:42:29 PM »
Petrov is a good clubman, decent captain and canny footballer.

We miss him and he will make a difference when he comes back.

I can accept- to a degree- the arguments that he's not one for the future and were we looking to improve on 6th longterm, he's not the solution.

But in the short > medium term he'll have a big role to play for us.

Delph will be his long term replacement, and all being well should be an improvement on him long term. I'd like our very own Patrick Viera to play along side him though, with Bannan as a third midfielder if we stick with 3 in the middle.

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #276 on: December 08, 2010, 10:29:02 PM »
Petrov is a good clubman, decent captain and canny footballer.

We miss him and he will make a difference when he comes back.

I can accept- to a degree- the arguments that he's not one for the future and were we looking to improve on 6th longterm, he's not the solution.

But in the short > medium term he'll have a big role to play for us.
yup

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #277 on: December 09, 2010, 03:57:50 AM »
Petrov is a very intelligent footballer, and we have missed him providing guidance and leadership. Where Petrov is a liability is when he is played in every minute of every game and by the end of the season he is simply knackered. Pretty much like most players would be. We'll appreciate him a lot more when he returns and is played sparingly.

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #278 on: December 09, 2010, 06:50:13 AM »
Petrov is a very intelligent footballer, and we have missed him providing guidance and leadership. Where Petrov is a liability is when he is played in every minute of every game and by the end of the season he is simply knackered. Pretty much like most players would be. We'll appreciate him a lot more when he returns and is played sparingly.

I agree, Mr Toronto. And he has this strange ability of controlling the ball and passing it to a bloke in the same team. On the ground.

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #279 on: December 09, 2010, 06:55:12 AM »
Petrov is a very intelligent footballer, and we have missed him providing guidance and leadership. Where Petrov is a liability is when he is played in every minute of every game and by the end of the season he is simply knackered. Pretty much like most players would be. We'll appreciate him a lot more when he returns and is played sparingly.

Nail Head, please meet Hammer.

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #280 on: December 09, 2010, 08:11:24 AM »
Yeah, can't really argue with that and the proof is there for all to see.

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #281 on: December 09, 2010, 09:33:18 AM »
First comment from me on all of this...I think it was what we needed. Monday has been a wake up call for everyone in so many ways. Firstly the result, simply not good enough and the players will know it from the half-time reaction and the chants from the crowd.

More importantly a big wake up call for GH. The honeymoon period is over. This will translate to the players and he will now be working them hard and focussing them like never before so their honeymoon with him will be over (apart from Carew, who never had one). This will have snapped him out of that nice and happy mode he has been in since his job at the French FA. Also we will hear less about his Liverpool glory and he knows his reputation in England rests now on his performance for Aston Villa.

All this needed to happen. Instead of it happening over a couple of months it should now happen in a week. I will say I think Houllier is a good manager (better than MON in MY opinion) and I think he will now prove it. His pride will have been dented and I am sure he will come out fighting.
 
Now I am expecting a powerful performance on Saturday. I think the lion on our crest will start to roar again!

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #282 on: December 09, 2010, 01:38:32 PM »
First comment from me on all of this...I think it was what we needed. Monday has been a wake up call for everyone in so many ways. Firstly the result, simply not good enough and the players will know it from the half-time reaction and the chants from the crowd.

More importantly a big wake up call for GH. The honeymoon period is over. This will translate to the players and he will now be working them hard and focussing them like never before so their honeymoon with him will be over (apart from Carew, who never had one). This will have snapped him out of that nice and happy mode he has been in since his job at the French FA. Also we will hear less about his Liverpool glory and he knows his reputation in England rests now on his performance for Aston Villa.

All this needed to happen. Instead of it happening over a couple of months it should now happen in a week. I will say I think Houllier is a good manager (better than MON in MY opinion) and I think he will now prove it. His pride will have been dented and I am sure he will come out fighting.
 
Now I am expecting a powerful performance on Saturday. I think the lion on our crest will start to roar again!

Thats the spirit, we need to come out fighting.

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #283 on: December 09, 2010, 02:36:31 PM »
Has GH been sacked?

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Re: Not happy, M. Houllier
« Reply #284 on: December 10, 2010, 02:29:34 AM »
I wish!!

 


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