Liverpool v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[hawkeye]

we won at Anfield last season with Cuellar and Davies playing at CB

[glasses]

If Davies plays another league game for us, we owe Albion a fee for appearances don't we. The club doesn't want to pay this.

[TheSandman]

I don't believe for one second that hogwash about Davies and appearances (it would have to be a funny number of appearances) but it might be cheaper than getting relegated which is what might happen if we keep playing Bertie Bombscare and Coco the Clown.

[The Situation]

If Davies plays another league game for us, we owe Albion a fee for appearances don't we. The club doesn't want to pay this.

Is that the real reason? Pathetic. The board needs to get their act together.

[olaftab]

This was an ordinary Lpool team so 3-0 is  a nightmare. We are now in trouble and I can not see us getting better. Rene is trying to take on  teams by playing football however  our team does not have the wherewithall to do that. Unless he is able to change and go for results we could keep struggling post Chrismas.

[Small Rodent]

I like what he's (GH) is trying to do possession wise but can't fathom what's happened to the defence. Have we changed to zone marking or something..absolutely woeful. The kids are getting found out a bit in the prem..it's tough.

We need all our players back fit to try and halt the slide and let him get his own in. Ain't panicking just yet, but anything less than 4 points in next 2 games and I will be. Hard to see where the goals chances are gonna come from.

Wouldn't be surprise to see new centre halfs come in. Playing possession football (or trying to) we need centre halfs that are good on the ball and mobile.

A good response. I like the posession football, but why this cannot translate into better attacking, I don't know.



WHy can't players ignore their boss

[glasses]

I agree Sandman. It also would have made sense for him to have played alongside Dunne for the game against Newcastle instead of the inexperienced Clark. There is something fishy going on with the situation.

[glasses]

Haha, just realised 'The Situation' commented. I must make it clear that I dont think there is anything fishy going on with you!

[Rudy Can't Fail]

We have some cracking players but they seemed completely lacking in any kind of motivation  from the bench who seemed most concerned with keeping warm.

Spot on, PW.

[brontebilly]

I have an irrational dislike of DOL.  Itr's irrational because we had some good/great moments under DOL, beting SHA  a few times, great first season, played some decent football early on etc along with the usual crap - like most Villa managers if we're honest.

No, the reason I have an irrational dislike of DOL was because he always gave the impression that the Villa job was slightly beneath him, that he'd already reached his zeneth at the mighty Leeds and my God he never stopped talking about it, unless ofcourse he was trying to dumb down the Villa's expectations ad standing as a Football Club.  In the end this mindset was tranferred to the players and the rest is history.

I'm starting to get the exact same feeling after tonight about Houllier.  Touching signs, waving to the Kop before and after an understrength and generally poor 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' team have handed our arses back to us.  Is he DOL mkII?

Not fecking good on so many levels it isn't funny.

agree mate. It is not going to work with Houllier. Bolton are broke. Lets do what Spurs did with Pompey and give them 5m for Owen Coyle. I know he wont be pining for Burnley or Bolton and he will give it his all to improve us.

Normally a new manager sees an improvement in attitude with players bursting their bollocks to impress him. The opposite is occuring here and tonight was unacceptable regardless of who was missing. As every manager knows it is easier to replace 1 manager than 20 players. I really miss MON's ambition actually you just knew maybe for the sake of his own ego that he would try everything to get us into top4. I think Houllier sees keeping us up as sufficient. It wont be if tonights performance is any judge.

[SteveD]

We are far, far more prediicable than under MON, and far, far less effectiive; the defence is a shambles; the arrival of our new fitness guru has coincided with the worst injury crisis for several seasons; on a positive note, we have some good youngsters emerging (Clark, Hogg, Allbrighton), but good for the Championship possibly if we don't arrest what is now an awful run of results since Houllier took over. I don't care whether he turned up tonight in a red scarf and did the conga in front of the Kop, it's about results, and he's not achieving them. Even the Man Utd game, fantastic as it was at times, was possibly a sign he hasn't any luck either. He just looks forlorn and the same mistakes are re-occurring every week. I'm really looking forward to January - I can see the swap deal involving Young and Keane now.

[The Situation]

Haha, just realised 'The Situation' commented. I must make it clear that I dont think there is anything fishy going on with you!

Don't worry I did lol.

Brontebilly; I agree completely. How can a manager come in and make little impact making us worse... I do wish the board looked at some managers the fans wanted, it'll kick off big time if we lose to the baggies.

[Pete3206]

How to lose the fans in one night.

I take take defeat, even humiliating defeat. What I cannot accept is a total lack of respect from the manager and the position he currently occupies. All this me, me, me and how I love Liverpool has had me seething for weeks.

It came to a head tonight with a display of shameless self promotion and scant regard for the great football club he is lucky to be a manager of and those poor buggers who travelled to Anfield on a freezing night.

Grovel to the fans tomorrow GH or fuck off.

And I mean fuck right off. 

[VillaAlways]

Don't think any ammount of grovelling will excuse his behaviour.Hard to believe we recently had a thread called "something special going on"

[dl9]

GH has no connection to this club, it's a job for him. Clearly he is still in love with Liverpool and will pick up a nice wage whilst friends that I know will be returning back from Anfield around about now after having spent their hard earned money to see our 'leader' kiss the liver bird and wave to his *adoring public.
Do not be fooled for one minute by his record. of the 4 trophies he won with them in that one season- they included the charity shield, the uefa cup winners cup (one match) and the worthlessington cup.
We'll all be here when he's gone as we have been before.
What sticks in my throat is that he doesn't demonstrate any passion towards our cause. Say what you like about MON but he lived and breathed our club and you can guarantee that he would have had strong words about a 0-3 loss to a mediocre side devoid of it's 3 top stars.
It hurts.
Once again I'll be travelling up from London on Saturday with my son to the match......guess what, I ain't feeling confident at all.
Not a good feeling. I'd feel better if I thought Houllier & McAllister were as down as I am, but I really don't get the impression that they are. His quote earlier about losing to Liverpool because he likes them so much says it all.

*adoring now that he has left them.