Liverpool v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Perry Barr Pet]

"The liverpool fans were fantastic, I'd like to thank them for their chants at the end and for their banner."

Tell me you are kidding VD, please....

word for word.

Disgraceful.

[Des Little]

Just resign you buffoon before you make things even worse for everyone

[villajoy]

agree please...

[Surrey Villain]

Liverpool fans were great says houllier as he thanks them- what about the poor sods who pay your wages gerard and travelled in awful weather to watch such shit- very dissapointing mr houllier!

That and his poncing around touching the sign and wave to the Kop is a bloody disgrace.  Houllier has really made it hard for himself now.  DOL did the same and once you've lost the fans your finished.

I know we have injuries, but that does not explain tonight.

Dunne is a great player, but his form has nosedived beyond belief. Carew never put much work in, but always looked dangerous until recently. Warnock has never set the world alight, but he can play much, much better than that. Collins is still working hard, but his decision making has gone to pot.

We are now in a relegation fight, which we could well lose.

I don't blame Randy though. Martin O'Neill was a horrible bloke, but a good manager. He commanded respect, but in the end he refused to understand basic economics and he walked. Unfortunately there was no-one obvious available and Houllier was as good as the rest that were around, and so Randy took the gamble.

The problem with gambling is that sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Houllier tonight proved he has no future in football and can only harp back to the past.

I would normally state that a manager should be given time, but tonight I feel different, and I think Randy should get rid now and give the transfer window to the new guy. Although God knows who that could be!

Marton Jol was the fans' favourite before Houllier was appointed but he couldn't get away from Ajax.  Tonight he has left by mutual consent.  A chance?  No.  Newcastle will have been more persuasive than we were.  Another chance lost and so we plod on hopeless, helpless and recently pointless. There is a board meeting tomorrow but I suppose we will be told to be patient.  That won't stretch further than DSaturday night!

[not3bad]

I wish people would stop saying we have the same team as MON, he never had the injuries to contend with that we have now. I'm as angry over that performance as anyone but keep a sense of reality.

 

Mon fans rarely do .

When you think of the number of times he played Albrighton, clark, Young, Hogg, Bannan, and co its amazing we aren't on target for 6th.

What the fuck are you on about you tart?

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Friedal 2 - Doesn't instil confidence in the back 4 at all, poor communication.
Young 4 - The pick of a piss poor defence
Collins 2 - Looked like he was wearing his black PE pumps
Dunne 2 - Captain? Leader? he's just a fat useless bastard
Warnock 2 - This guy cost us how much? Played for England?? - actually yeah - he doesn't look bothered
Albrighton 4 - Tried hard, but why Gerard Scousier plays him down the left i don't know
Hogg 4 - Tried hard, needs an old head alonside him
Clark 3 - Exposed, poorest game
Downing 5 - The pick of our outfield players over the 90 mins but his dead ball deliver was shit
Ireland 3 - Oxygen thief
Gabby 4 - I thought he tried hard with no service at all

Delfouneso - 5 - lively - deserves more of a role
Carwho - What a waste of shirt
Pires - Not sure what he's going to do for us?

As for Gerard Scousier's 'performance' - no doubt we'll hear something in the coming days about our 'magnificant away following' from our PR boys. His complete and utter disregard for our away following is attrocious. As for his management when their right back has more shots at goal than three of our forwards that tells you all you need to know. Reina didn't touch the ball properly until 53minutes.

[Blackcountry Villa]

I said 3-0 on here earlier today so it was no surprise to me, just thank god they didn't have Gerrard and Torres eh?

Our manager and team are both wank. Theres no quality or fighting spirit amongst them and we're in massive trouble, once you're down there it's hard to get out especially with no fighting spirit.

[Loxton01]

Up until tonight I still remained confident that the team would turn things around. We had played well in spells of games e.g. man utd second half . I felt with players back we would look a more solid outfit and the bad touches, the richocets, deflections would start going for us

However that was absolutely shameful typified by our manager who didnt seem to give a toss. The defence has become a shambles, however these players dont become shit overnight. They have lost confidence, under oneill we played counter attacking football and we were tight rigid and well organised. Houllier pretty one touch football gives us possession stats but we are clueless at what to next.

We play our best when the tempo is up we get the ball up front quickly. Tonight i cant think of one time we hit gabby in the channels, it was just pretty pretty across the back four then oh shit what should i do oh yeh bang up the pitch aimlessly.

Were not arsenal or barcelona gerrard you cant change things overnight.

Training for saturday needs to get us solid we need a clean sheet. We need desire passion bite tempo all things i think our manager has lost

Were in big big trouble and i fear for us

[The Charmer]

Having Houillier as our manager is like starting a relationship with a woman when you know she's still in love with her last bloke. It's not good for the soul.

That's exactly how it makes me feel.
I open a newspaper, my 'Villa Radar' homes-in on an article and, surprise-f""kin'-surprise, at least half of the piece insists on telling me that Houillier used to be the manager at Liverpool, and he once had some-sort of heart-attack (but he's alright now), oh yeah, that's right and Jamie Carragher thinks he's a really good bloke and as for those Scally fans  . . . . . . Enough now, you infuriating French tosser!
If he has any intention of getting remotely close to running our team and being associated with our club in the manner that is expected, (and at this precise moment he is a long, long way from demonstrating that) he should insist that any interviews / articles / soundbites whatever, are about the present and future of Aston Villa Football Club.

Gerard, if you have the slightest problem with this most basic requirement, get up tomorrow morning, go straight to Villa Park and resign.

[AV82EC]

I went tonight and have just got back.  It was atrocious, I could rail on for hours about how bad it was but I think I'm just going to forget about the whole sorry night and turn up on Saturday and hope the team have turned a corner.  However I feel this is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.

[avfcpg]

I like what he's (GH) is trying to do possession wise but can't fathom what's happened to the defence. Have we changed to zone marking or something..absolutely woeful. The kids are getting found out a bit in the prem..it's tough.

We need all our players back fit to try and halt the slide and let him get his own in. Ain't panicking just yet, but anything less than 4 points in next 2 games and I will be. Hard to see where the goals chances are gonna come from.

Wouldn't be surprise to see new centre halfs come in. Playing possession football (or trying to) we need centre halfs that are good on the ball and mobile.

[myf]

Didn't see any of the game but sounds like the tide has turned and we are officially in crisis (again).

Houllier has done little to endear us to him and, after tonight, looks like he simply wanted one last chance to get back to his beloved Anfield.  At this moment in time I'd even swap him for Sam Allardyce.

I also think tonight was a warning of how we would fare without Ashley Young.  He can be a pain in the arse at times but would be sorely missed IMO.

[PeterWithe]

Well we were fucking shocking, such a lack of fight and desire I've not seen since DOL was at the helm. Its alright fucking about with tippy tappy football in our own third but as soon as we advanced they just took it off us.

All of the back line were ponderous and lacking in any sort of aggression, the midfield made some terrible decisions and the forward never saw the ball, was in one save in the entire game for Reina?

We have some cracking players but they seemed completely lacking in any kind of motivation  from the bench who seemed most concerned with keeping warm.

I'm not fucking happy with that.

[Des Little]

Well I think the least he can do is give Carlos a game (at CB) and recall Curtis Davies from Leicester (if able to do so).  Collins and Dunne are in horrenous form but they both know/think they're guaranteed a game.  And the sad thing is they're right.

[TheSandman]

I notice nobody has made the obvious joke.

Under Houllier we have the worst French defence since the Maginot line.