Liverpool v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

It's concerning that he was happy with the effort of the players. I'm hoping that he was just saying that for the press.

[Villa'Zawg]

"The liverpool fans were fantastic, I'd like to thank them for their chants at the end and for their banner."

[richard moore]

"The liverpool fans were fantastic, I'd like to thank them for their chants at the end and for their banner."

Tell me you are kidding VD, please....

[Rigadon]

We were utterly shit.  In every single way shit.  Nobody came out with any credit at all.

Warnock cost us two goals again.  Dunne looked like a comedy version of last seasons rock.  The midfield made LUCAS look like Platini and Ngog like Henry.  Make no mistake, we are in the shit big time and Liverpool won't play a worse team than they did tonight.  Ireland was shocking.

I can't see Houllier being our manager much longer.   Everything about the club seems so transient.

So when he walks / is pushed, can we please get a boss who isn't intrinsically and forever linked with a 'bigger' club.  Somebody who is at Villa for the long haul and somebody who excites us.  Somebody on the journey with us and for us. 

[TopDeck113]

Defence is shit.

Midfield lightweight.

Wingers who can't send in crosses that beat the first man. (Plus wingers whose petulance get them suspended when we desperately need the experience).

Strikers who can't score.

Managers/coaching staff who are watching the same mistakes played out week after week.

The club is in a mess. 

Oh, and I always said during the Randy Lerner love-in years, the time to judge him was when he had to make a managerial appointment/deal with the first real crisis of confidence on the pitch.  So based on that, how many still reckon we've got the best Chairman going?

 

been saving that comment for some time have you ?

The last comment? I'm just repeating what I said two or three years ago.  Randy got lorded because he wasn't Doug and things were going relatively well on the pitch.  I said that the time to judge was when he's had to make a few difficult decisions. 

I don't take any pleasure in saying it. but at present I don't think precipitating the situation whereby MON flounced out and appointing Houlier as his successor look like good calls.

[luke25]

We can't defend, we can't create, we've got no leadership, we've got no commitment, I genuinly don't think the players want to play for Houllier

[ozzjim]

Yes, every march for 4 years. Tonight was fecking disgrace, but lets not make out that MON was going to ever get us any further than 6th and playing the woeful battling football each week. Not happy tonight, but still not worried. The midfield was picked apart by them, and Warnock/ Dunne are competing for the worst player of the season award, but think we need to give GH Jan and some cash to sort it. He is a winner, has always been a winner with clubs he has been at, and given time and chance to ship some of the shit he has been left with out, he will be a winner here.

[AVFCRob]

Having Houillier as our manager is like starting a relationship with a woman when you know she's still in love with her last bloke. It's not good for the soul.

[kippaxvilla2]

Why are we like this all the time.  We have a good couple of years then we hit the fuckin self destruct button again.  Only we could be taken over by an American billionaire and look like relegation candidates after 3 years of Champions League qualification flirtation.

[Des Little]

So - Ireland and Carew don't care.  For Dunne and Collins read Hinge and Brackett.  Warnock's a walking free kick and Friedel is running out of time.  The two lads in centre mid have been dropped right in it and are drowning and Gabby has been turned from a lightning striker into a willing worker, a la Kevin Davies. 

Apart from that, it's fine.  We are in the shit folks.

[TheSandman]

Don't worry Collins and Dunne are looking happy.



Couldn't find a pic with the Gaffer and Warcock in it as well.

[hawkeye]

"The liverpool fans were fantastic, I'd like to thank them for their chants at the end and for their banner."

Tell me you are kidding VD, please....

No he said it

[sfx412]

I wish people would stop saying we have the same team as MON, he never had the injuries to contend with that we have now. I'm as angry over that performance as anyone but keep a sense of reality.

 

Mon fans rarely do .

When you think of the number of times he played Albrighton, clark, Young, Hogg, Bannan, and co its amazing we aren't on target for 6th.

[Dribbler]

Absolutely pathetic performance, one of the worst i have ever seen, did we actually play any football?

Obviously we have a lot of players out, but the way we set the team out to play was clueless and the players seemed lost. What happened to being hard to beat? This was one of those games where we needed to sit back, be organised, keep it simple, let Liverpool come on to us, and then play on the counter. But no we played silly tactics. We're losing games away because we play too open and our football is too slow because we are trying to play this fancy 'passing game' out of defense, and we just don't have the players for it. We need to get back to solid defending and quick counter attacking football, that's where we are most dangerous.

Our defence is dire at the moment but problem is they have little protection in front of them, so are making mistakes. They also have very few options in front of them and they are just passing the ball between themselves, or booting it up field. Either way we keep loosing possession. I can't understand why we can no longer defend from crosses though, but bringing Cuellar in would surely help things. One thing is though, i just don't think the defence are up to playing the way they are being asked to play.

Lets not forget all of the players out though, Bannan and Young were a big miss, never mind Petrov and Reo Coker. Stick those players on the pitch today and we would have looked a much better proposition no doubt about it. Lets face up to the fact that it's going to be a hard December and early January. We need to scrape a few points until then when hopefully we can get some of our senior players back and get some signings in.

[eric woolban woolban]

Any team playing the Villa at the moment will be rubbing their hands with glee, knowing they only have to 'turn up' to win the game.

That's the shocking thing about this current team.