Liverpool v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm delighted i'm on a shite PC that won't cope with a live stream. Watching it on the BBC videprinter was bad enough. Something is seriously wrong at Villa Park at present, and we can't keep blaming it on MON.

[brian green]

Complete garbage and exactly what I expected when we chose this manager.   I am with my friend Bad English in believing this Houllier debacle was always going to end in tears.   The one I feel really sorry for is Kevin McDonald to be overlooked in favour of this old tosser.

[AVFCRob]

The irony is that maybe Liverpool's fans don't love him as much as he loves them. There was a banner held up by the kop a little while ago that was a tribute to all the managers that had won trophies there in the last 50 years and Houillier's was the only manager that wasn't included even though he won a treble in 2001.

[Oscar Arce]

What has to happen before houllier shows any passion ? Tonight was embarrassing and our manager's lack of respect for us as a club has seriously pissed me off.
Touching the sign, waving to the Liverpool fans at the start was bad enough, but his wave to the kop while ignoring the Villa fans at the end....shameful.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

This is really now very worrying.
On this evidence, Im inclined to say Id take 17th position at the end of the season if it was guaranteed.

[gervilla]

Well folks, is there still anyone out there not worried about relegation ? If there is I admire yer optimisim.
We are fucked big time.
The best chance we have of getting any points on the board between now and F.A Cup 3rd round weekend are v Albion and Wigan.
Can you see us beating either of them? I can't.
This team ( management included ) are an embarassment.

[atomicjam]

An absolute shower of shite. The defence has to change, Warnock is soo bad, Dunne looks lost, clueless and still too lardy. The midfield look they have no idea where they should be and what they should be doing. We miss Petrov, he protected the center backs more than I realised. It needs an almighty change of player attitude on Saturday- and that is where the manager earns is money. We are in trouble.

[Nev]

The conduct of our manager tonight is way below what I expect before we even start on the players.

Shameful and disrespectful to those who pays his wages. It is not good enough.

[andyh]

I am starting to believe the GH experiment won't work.
There can't be many teams where a new manager has had such a drastic NEGATIVE effect. You normally get that initial bounce, and increased impetus, but we didn't even get that. I don't like this quiet revolution

[Proposition Joe]

Sigh.  It's the good old Villa cycle - just look at a graph of our league positions since getting promotion.  We can't go more than 5 seasons without an implosion of some sort.  This season is very similar to GT Mk2: a manager unpopular with fans for his playing style, but who achieved consistent league placings, feels he doesn't have the board's backing, leaves us in the shit and an apparently past-it manager comes in to steer us into a relegation battle.

BTW, did Sky allude to the fact that GH has changed our defensive system from man-to-man to zonal or vice-versa?  That would go some to explaining our defensive spasticity.

[Goldie.7]

Game over in 3 or 4 minutes..............  Worrying times ahead!

Why isn't Cuellar playing or Beye?

[tom.whybrow]

After the behaviour of some of our "fans" on Wednesday I was ashamed after the performance of the 11 "men" on the pitch this evening I am embarrassed.  This season was always going to be about 40 points but that looks a long long way off now - I am not sure I have ever been so scared about the rest of a season as I am now.

But putting the negativity to one side there are some bright spots, the youngsters coming through show immense promise and at times we have played some good football and been a joy to watch (OK I admit you need to block out a lot of bad stuff to remember this).  I honestly believe that we are not too far away from having a decent side here, it is 40 points this season and then judge GH when he has had a full pre season.

Lets all keep the faith and start by roaring us to a win against the baggies on Saturday, it is now a must win game and we as the fans are probably going to have to lead from the front.  It will be hard and we're all hurting right now but the alternative is not even worth considering.

UTV

Tom

[Dan England]

Delfouneso looked good, Downing was hardworking and didn't do a lot wrong, probably Irelands best performance for us and looked a lot better when we went to 442. Luke Young didn't disgrace himself and Brad snr wasvirtually redundant(bar picking the ball out of the net). The rest were woeful. Seems like the usual suspects of Dunne, Collins and Warnock were abysmal.

[TonyD]

If GH didnt wave to our fans who made the trip in this weather - he needs a bloody good talking to.

[j66acd]

I didn't see the Newcastle match, but that performance can't be far behind it. As soon as the first goal went in we all knew it was going to be a long night. All of them apart from Hogg and Downing who I thought ran their socks off without getting any reward, were shit. Thought Delfounso had some decent touches too.

I used to like Carew, but I think he touched the ball about 4 times in 25 minutes. Pires never got into the game at all and can anybody tell me where Ireland was? The back 4 were terrible and everytime Liverpool come forward I though they were going to score.

I haven't felt like this for ages but I really can't be arsed at the moment to sit in the cold and watch a load of fannying about. There is no urgency, no fight, no belief, look frail at the back, we can keep the ball but on the edge of our 18 yard box. Just shown on sky we had 60% possession and we did fuck all with it.

Fair play to those of you that went tonight, the way you sung all night was fantastic. Probably the only positive to take from a shocking night.