Our Centre Halves

[Shrek]

One thing I've liked about Houllier so far is the fact he seems too see things that us fans see. So I'm praying he will act on his comments about the defence yesturday.

[The Left Side]

Does anyone know how Davies has been playing at Leicester?

[garyshawsknee]

We all slated O'Neill for picking his favourites,and not dropping out of form players. So its time for GH to act and drop Dunne for Cuellar.

 If he plays im certain Liverpool will score from another defensive error of ours.

[PaulTheVillan]

Our best defensive display this season was Wolves away.
Cuellar & Collins.

[peter w]

We all slated O'Neill for picking his favourites,and not dropping out of form players. So its time for GH to act and drop Dunne for Cuellar.

 If he plays im certain Liverpool will score from another defensive error of ours.

its not about him beiong a favourite. Dropping some players isn't always the best course of action if it ultltimately takes them longer to get back to form. If Collins was playing brilliantly the decision would be easier, but he's not so its not as easy to drop the captain.

[garyshawsknee]

But he looks out of shape and out of sorts,short of confidence.And maybe its effecting Collins,who's looked shakey recently.

Also when Cuellar played he was great against Wolves,deserves another start.

[KevinGage]

One thing I've liked about Houllier so far is the fact he seems too see things that us fans see. So I'm praying he will act on his comments about the defence yesturday.

Sorry, I don't see that at all.

Most wanted Cuellar to stay in the side after his performance v Wolves. GH was even complimentary about him, comparing him to Jamie Carragher. As good somehow has to be compared to LFC, obv.

But when Dunne was available Cuellar was straight out.

[peter w]

I agree that Cuellar should start and I think that was part of the reasoning behind MON had him at right-back. I'd be loathe to have him and Collins together though, as as good as they are defensively they are both poor in possession. With that in mind its not the worse call in the world to have Carlos at right-back and Young on the left. Kepp the 2 in the middle and drop Warnock - or stick him in midfield.

[SoccerHQ]

I really don't know what's going on here.

To me, the centre half options we have at the club means it should be far and away the strongest area of our squad and it was last season and even at times this season if you watched the Everton home game when Collins and Dunney played the match as if their yearly wages were dependent on getting a clean sheet.

I have said in the past my prefered combo is Dunney and Carlos (I certainly think Carlos should be in our back 4 somewhere) but until recently Collins has been playing very well this season imo, just been dodgy for the last few games.

So regrettably the problem here is Dunney, looks like he's having one of his error-a-plenty period of games he'd have at City once in a while. If he's overweight then I don't understand why the new regieme sort it out? If he's still carrying that ankle injury, why don't we get it sorted as it's not like we don't have any other options in that area.

To me I reckon Houllier is thinking we'd miss his leadership at the back but then again we kept a clean sheet against Chelsea with Clark and Collins for most of the game and Carlos is a very capable centre half.

[SoccerHQ]

without experienced centre mids in there like stan and nrc to protect them, the defence are being shown for what they really are: strong in the air and tackle but slow, clumsey, error prone and technically pathetic. they cant even control the ball or pass it 10 yards most of the time.

This aswell is a good point as we weren't conceding many goals not that long ago when we had at least one of NRC or Petrov in the side, bar a freak game up at Newcastle.

[Marlon's Hairy Wood]

Dunnes the worst centre back i've ever seen ay Aston Villa

During the match on wednesday I was saying what i'd do to still have Knight around, which says it all

he doesn't even seem arsed that he makes mistake after mistake, its like hes unaware that its him who keeps f**king up

When he was awful early season, and then horrendous against Bolton (had 2 or 3 chances to clear before Davies' goal*, and should of gave a blatant penalty after getting caught for pace then putting a rash sliding tackle in whilst trying to recover poition, god knows how the ref didn't give that) i just assumed he'd pick it up as the season went on, but the first goal double mistake and letting jerome in just left me head in hands

i can't remember the last game he didn't do something shit, no way should have been so far away from Chamakh against Arsenal, get Cuellar in before its too late Houllier

can't remember if i'm on about Davies' goal, or a missed chance about 5 minutes before*

[Ad@m]

Dunnes the worst centre back i've ever seen ay Aston Villa

Come off it!!

Alpay?!  Zat Knight?!

[Marlon's Hairy Wood]

Dunnes the worst centre back i've ever seen ay Aston Villa

Come off it!!

Alpay?!  Zat Knight?!

As average as Zat Knight was, he was never consistantly making goal/near goal costing errors and mistakes for as long as Dunne has been.

[Lee]

I said the same om Wednesday and have been all season. Someone mentions a goal a game they are costing us, I would say that was the very least.

[Lee]

Dunnes the worst centre back i've ever seen ay Aston Villa

Come off it!!

Alpay?!  Zat Knight?!

As average as Zat Knight was, he was never consistantly making goal/near goal costing errors and mistakes for as long as Dunne has been.

I don't think that Dunney is the worst, but to back Knight up, he was far better when the Davies when they were paired together.