SHA v Aston Villa LCQF Post-Match Thread

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Thought Hogg had a great game, although how he didn't get booked for that tackle on Bowyer is anyone's guess.

[avfc_1874]

Said it before we even got a new manager in, but this season is going to be a fustrating one. Some of the over-reactions are pathetic, yes it's a shitter to lose to a flukey goal to your rivals in the cup, but the way some of fans are going on are as if I've gone in a time machine and its 03-03-03 again.

[pauliewalnuts]

Said it before we even got a new manager in, but this season is going to be a fustrating one. Some of the over-reactions are pathetic, yes it's a shitter to lose to a flukey goal to your rivals in the cup, but the way some of fans are going on are as if I've gone in a time machine and its 03-03-03 again.

Whilst I agree with you on your first line, i actually think the reaction tonight has been, on the whole, pretty restrained and thoughtful.

[bertlambshank]

Said it before we even got a new manager in, but this season is going to be a fustrating one. Some of the over-reactions are pathetic, yes it's a shitter to lose to a flukey goal to your rivals in the cup, but the way some of fans are going on are as if I've gone in a time machine and its 03-03-03 again.

Whilst I agree with you on your first line, i actually think the reaction tonight has been, on the whole, pretty restrained and thoughtful.

We are a couple of signings away from a very good side.

[Bosco81]

Not as pisssed off as I thought I'd be, I thought we played well especially Hogg.

The penalty was a shocking goal to give away, Carlos will be knocking on Gerard's door tomorrow.

We are a different side with Gabby in it, just hope he stays fit.

[D.boy]

Gutted to have lost in that manner but they were due one sooner or later.

Negatives - we looked shakey/panic stricken in defence on the rare occasion that blose had an attack.
We lacked penetration up front yet continued to pump high balls in that just came straight out again. They parked the bus as expected but we seemed to have forgotten how to shoot from outside the box.

Positives - We seemed more comfortable in possession and passed the ball well. The youngsters are developing well and GH appears to be changing things for the better, this won't happen overnight. We are showing some very good potential and a top striker, midfielder and the return of Cueller in place of Dunne should be enough to push up the table.

We are a work in progress and have a horrendous injury list (not an excuse). We will head in the right direction.
The result is their cup final and means far more to them than us which shows in their reaction. They will be back to attendances of 15-20,000 at the weekend. The balance will be restored soon.

SN - you seem a reasonable chap so enjoy your moment (they don't come very often) but your lot do have some complete morons as witnessed in the aftermath. None of us are suprised at what happened at the end of the game.

[BannedUserIAT]

There will be a lot of doom and gloom on here tonight, and I am gutted to lose to them, but lets put some persepctive on it. We have had to play the same back 4 for the last 6 weeks due to injuries, maybe it might get changed when Cuellar is fully fit. Hogg is growing as a player, Clark is playing out of position in midfield, Gabby has been fit for about 3 games this season, we are missing all of our centre mids and arguably our most effective creator this season, and we have gone there, been the better team by a distance and been undone by our most experienced men. We need 2 centre backs and a keeper of quality, and a top centre mid. I think Houllier likes the 4-5-1 and Gabby does it well. Give it time, I think we are on a better path than the boring motorway we were on, and the end will be much more rewarding. Time now. Just time.

Well said.

[shipscat]

Just got back.Thought we were well on top second half,really thought Gabby and Ashley caused them problems they were just about getting away with right until my mate made his comment that he couldn't see them scoring.One thing,once they had scored it seemed ages for us to make our tactical change as our players didn't appear to be suited and booted to come on.Poor.

Had a lovely chair land on my forehead,to match the endless coins that kept arriving.Right by the noses in block 1,straight out for a walk to Aston train station(i know),avoided the lock in that the majority of villa fans endured and march back to Garrison Lane.

Like a rapid dog,they've had their day,used their AV luck up,and the karma will soon be kicking them hard.

[dave.woodhall]

The loss of NRC cannot be understated, shocking as that might be to say. His bite and endless energy in the midfield would have given the our other midfielders a bit more room and licence to be creative. He was playing very well indeed when he got injured and it's really hurt us.

FFS Tonto we had about 80% posession in the second half, we got done because we cant defend and have no cutting edge up front

Hawkeye -  you need to fuck off. I've got nothing to fucking say to you ever. Don't fucking comment on anything I post because you are a fucking waste of space. If you can't state my username correctly like you do with everyone else, then don't fucking bother. Your act is fucking broken record. Do you understand??? Or are you completely retarded?

Let's put this one down to post-match annoyance. And let's also apologise for it.

[vilan461]

Not as pisssed off as I thought I'd be, I thought we played well especially Hogg.

The penalty was a shocking goal to give away, Carlos will be knocking on Gerard's door tomorrow.

We are a different side with Gabby in it, just hope he stays fit.

fully agree ---have to say i was very impressed with Hogg, thoght he had a good game,good to see Bowyers reputation meant nothing to him,------Carlos and Clark or Davies must be restored to the defence,
Gabby makes a hell of a difference---

[PeterWithe]

We had a lack of cutting edge but we were well on top and I cant beleive we lost. Hogg was excellent.

I dont think we played the ball behind them enough but silly mistakes from experienced defenders has cost us dear again, the biggest pisstake is Zigic getting the winner, he was fucking useless.

[mr woo]

Gabby is developing into a really decent footballer. Not just the quick but thick label anymore.

We were the better side. They got lucky but we can blame ourselves for not scoring while on top, more on this later...

Clark and Bannan have a good chance of making it. Sorry, but Hogg is way, way off. Lowry impresses me more.

There were times I tore my hair out with Martin O Neill, but it took 12 months to see his shortcomings. I see GH' s already. Its pretty but unproductive.


In his defence he needs a full squad and a few transfer windows before amyone can judge him fairly.

But at the the risk of upsetting a few - IMO and within our spending budget, Martin O Neill was (is) a better manager than Gerard Houllier,

Sorry.





p.s. Brad 'Hellboy' Friedal is past it. No one on this board who is over 40 will convince me they can still  jump/spring /dive/react in the same way they could when they were 30. And I think the way BF 'leapt' 2 fucking inches off the ground for their winner proves it.

[itbrvilla]

Gabby is developing into a really decent footballer. Not just the quick but thick label anymore.

We were the better side. They got lucky but we can blame ourselves for not scoring while on top, more on this later...

Clark and Bannan have a good chance of making it. Sorry, but Hogg is way, way off. Lowry impresses me more.

There were times I tore my hair out with Martin O Neill, but it took 12 months to see his shortcomings. I see GH' s already. Its pretty but unproductive.


In his defence he needs a full squad and a few transfer windows before amyone can judge him fairly.

But at the the risk of upsetting a few - IMO and within our spending budget, Martin O Neill was (is) a better manager than Gerard Houllier,

Sorry.

I bet GH could spend £120 odd Million on better players than MON

[Holtenderinthesky]

Proud but disappointed.  Not with the team but with the result.  Well done boys.  Onwards and upwards.

[DeKuip]

Enjoyed the night apart from the result, but in the end the better defence won the game.
Our young lads stood up to the test well though I thought and will have gained valuable experience from it. A defeat like that can be something they can draw on in future to drive them on, it's not something they can ever be taught or coached.

The crowd trouble is being overhyped in my opinion - just morons from both sides throwing things and gesturing - and after the match outside is was all pretty tame along my walk to the car, but no doubt some will have had worse experiences! 
It's unfortunate that it will all be blown up in the media as some fullscale pitch riot - to me the fact that only a few hundred moron noses were on their taunting Villa fans should be taken as a positive point, after all the vast majority of their lot stayed in the stands celebrating. Years ago they'd have all been on there... and our idiots would have joined them!
We lost, I feel shit about it, it'll be our turn to be on the receiving end of all the stick - but I'm man enough to accept defeat and take my medicine. This time tomorrow night it'll all be history and The Ashes will be on tele.

Villa 'til I die.