Aston Villa v Arsenal Post-Match Thread

[garyshawsknee]

GH got the team and tactics badly wong Carew  and Pires too slow meant we were over run in the first half

 It was like having two statue's up front. We couldnt get behind them and stretch them,and couldnt put any pressure from the front line on their defence and midfield. I know he didnt have much to pick from,but Gh got it badly wrong from the start today.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Clarke is not the finished article but is already twice the player reo coker is. He has better arial advantage, better distribution and much better in the tackle. Reo Coker wants 50k a week !!! Sell in Jan and replace with quality ......

[Edvard Remberg]

Clarke is not the finished article but is already twice the player reo coker is. He has better arial advantage, better distribution and much better in the tackle. Reo Coker wants 50k a week !!! Sell in Jan and replace with quality ......

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[Keeno]

Men against boys. Shocking first half, slightly, ever so slightly, better in the second. Only positive out of the game was Ciaran Clark, who looked assured and calm... like he'd be playing in the team for years. Need to get some of our attacking players back, cause we're relying on Young and Downing to create anything.

[richard moore]

I thought Clarke was lost in midfield at times despite his two goals but I would persevere with him - still think he is a centre half though
 
I hope Carew never pulls on a Villa shirt again. Just go please and take Warnock with you. And that twat Ireland and his white boots
 
I used to think the term 'headless chicken' appled to Wright-Phillips and Lennon but Ashley Young has nows inherited the mantle. And get rid of that scarf thing son. If he's worth £80 million, then I reckon I could go for about £20 million anytime now....
 
Bannan was our best player again by some distance and really does look a prospect to me

[PaulWinch again]

I thought Clarke was lost in midfield at times despite his two goals but I would persevere with him - still think he is a centre half though
 
I hope Carew never pulls on a Villa shirt again. Just go please and take Warnock with you. And that twat Ireland and his white boots
 
I used to think the term 'headless chicken' appled to Wright-Phillips and Lennon but Ashley Young has nows inherited the mantle. And get rid of that scarf thing son. If he's worth £80 million, then I reckon I could go for about £20 million anytime now....
 
Bannan was our best player again by some distance and really does look a prospect to me

Agree with most of that Richard but I thought Ireland did fairly well when he came on.

[Toronto Villa]

This is where we are so I'm not surprised that Arsenal were able to take advantage. Things can change very quickly, and our game next week has massive meaning now. We just need a spark to get us going. The Man U game was it, and we couldn't see it through but it doesn't mean all hope is lost. Because it isn't. GH needs the opportunity to change things up, and we won't see the real effects of that until next season. While we won't be pulling up any trees in the league this season it seems the cups are still hugely important and can provide us with the platform for the rest of the season.

[avfc_1874]

Men against boys. Shocking first half, slightly, ever so slightly, better in the second. Only positive out of the game was Ciaran Clark, who looked assured and calm... like he'd be playing in the team for years. Need to get some of our attacking players back, cause we're relying on Young and Downing to create anything.

I pretty much agree with all this. We badly missed Reo-Coker though today.

[barrysleftfoot]

Pace, pace, and pace........... a lack of it in the 1st half, meant we was chaseing the game from half time.

  Playing Carew is/was always a problem againsy Arse, too slow, and playing Bannan and Clark in the centre over exposed them.

  Friedel should have saved the 1st and 3rd, and Houllier got it wrong by taking Bannan off.

  AYoung was destroying Clichy the first 15 mins of the 2nd half, and then we stopped giving it him.

  Too naive today, we allowed Arse to play far too much, should have been quicker and more aggressive.

[barrysleftfoot]

   Irelands good on the ball, but too lazy off it.

  Ashley was our most dangerous player today imho.

[Blackcountry Villa]

Anyone blaming the injuries, wait until Petrov and co. are back it will be 'Petrov is shit, too slow, he's knackered', 'NRC can't pass a ball', 'Heskey is a lummox', some people think everything will be rosy when they're all back but the truth is none of them would have made a difference today and when we had them all at the start of the season we were still poor and got lamped 6-0 at Newcastle with our first team.
That was also our first choice defence today and they're an absolute shambles.

[Rigadon]

Only saw the second half (thankfully considering your comments on it).  We conceded at the wrong time.  Again.

Getting one back when we did lifted the crowd and Arsenal were rocking.  Then, Arsavin (who only ever appears to play / play well for Arsenal against us) drops deep and we're cut open far to easily by a through ball that should've been cut out.  It seemed like we were scared to tackle them which is the absolute incorrect approach when playing that team.  Conceding at the worst time possible is becoming our speciality.

Positives: Clarke played really well..  Ireland looked marginally better today, not saying much I concede.  We couldn't get the ball to Young or Downing enough until he came on.

Might seem harsh but I really wouldn't care if  I didn't see John Carew play for the Villa again.  He is now totally ineffectual and reminds me of a big lumbering dog that needs putting down.  As I said, maybe a bit harsh.

This injury thing is now as bad as I can remember.  We badly miss Gabby and Albrighton.

Does anybody feel remotely confident about Wednesday? 

[TopDeck113]

Didn't watch the second half, although listened to the commentary on 5 Live.

If we've going to put it down to a bad day and the better team winning, fine.  It is, as everyone is saying, a season of transition. However, we are not winning enough games and we really must now get six points from the games against Albion and Wigan, and also try to get at least a point from either Anfield or Eastlands.  If we don't, the table going into 2011 will start to make very uncomfortable reading.

[pablopicasso_10]

 the scoreline flattered us immensely.... arsenal were by far the better side, and that was without them needing to get out of 2nd gear...

in the first half, we were an absolute disgrace.. an embarassment... never seen any side in world football play that poorly... a total disgrace to the shirt, and i hope they are all as ashamed of themselves, as i am of them...

second half, it was an improvent... but then again, staying in the changing rooms and not coming out for the second half would have been an improvement... clark played well although his goal should have been chalked off, bannon showed glimpses of his ability, and delfouneso was lively... the rest, an absolute disgrace... more late goals conceded in each half... that keeps happening and is not good enough...

comedy defending, no work rate, and absolutely no clue in an attacking sense... just a joke all round...

not fkcuing happy, and if those players get paid this week, then it is an absolute travesty...

no escuses about injuries, no excuses about lack of preperation for the season, no excuses full stop... the basic fundementals from alleged experienced quality footballers were lacking all over the pitch today, and that was most disappointing...

they should be ashamed of themselves...

disgraceful...

[VillaAlways]

Only saw the second half (thankfully considering your comments on it).  We conceded at the wrong time.  Again.

Getting one back when we did lifted the crowd and Arsenal were rocking.  Then, Arsavin (who only ever appears to play / play well for Arsenal against us) drops deep and we're cut open far to easily by a through ball that should've been cut out.  It seemed like we were scared to tackle them which is the absolute incorrect approach when playing that team.  Conceding at the worst time possible is becoming our speciality.

Positives: Clarke played really well..  Ireland looked marginally better today, not saying much I concede.  We couldn't get the ball to Young or Downing enough until he came on.

Might seem harsh but I really wouldn't care if  I didn't see John Carew play for the Villa again.  He is now totally ineffectual and reminds me of a big lumbering dog that needs putting down.  As I said, maybe a bit harsh.

This injury thing is now as bad as I can remember.  We badly miss Gabby and Albrighton.

Does anybody feel remotely confident about Wednesday? 

No