Aston Villa v Gloryhunters Post-Match Thread

[ozzjim]

How on earth Vidic, Brown and Hernandez all saw the end of the game is beyond me. We should have put it beyond doubt, and I think with a few older and more experienced heads on the bench we would have done it today. Ce la vie. Feck off Mike Dean, never seen you have a good game and hope you are demoted to the rymans north farter 6th division where your decisions will still be wrong but you won't get the protection of 40 stewards. The man is a total disgrace to refing, and has a hideous style, favours the biggest clubs all the time and should have his pointy hand shoved up his pointy arse. Twat.

[Dan England]

I'd like Villa to question why neither Brown nor Vidic were sent off today.  Not through the media, but quietly and quickly.  We've been fucked over by bottler refs against these too many times.

Don't forget Nani's retaliation on Warnock and also an argument could be made for Hernandez getting a yellow for kicking the ball away after knowing he was offside.

It's annoying as we should only be congratulating our players on a pretty sublime performance but they continuously get away with murder against us.  Yes, Hernandez should've gone too.  They have better players so them getting the rub of the green as well is pretty hard to take.

I'm ok with Brown only getting a yellow, Ferdinand was going to get some kind of challenge in, so he wasn't the last man.

Vidic should have had a second yellow, just as Neville should have the other week against Stoke. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, the law states "prevents a clear  goal scoring opportunity" not "the last defending player". From where I was sitting Brown clearly prevented a goal scoring opportunity hence should go.

[usav]

I'd like Villa to question why neither Brown nor Vidic were sent off today.  Not through the media, but quietly and quickly.  We've been fucked over by bottler refs against these too many times.

Don't forget Nani's retaliation on Warnock and also an argument could be made for Hernandez getting a yellow for kicking the ball away after knowing he was offside.

It's annoying as we should only be congratulating our players on a pretty sublime performance but they continuously get away with murder against us.  Yes, Hernandez should've gone too.  They have better players so them getting the rub of the green as well is pretty hard to take.

I'm ok with Brown only getting a yellow, Ferdinand was going to get some kind of challenge in, so he wasn't the last man.

Vidic should have had a second yellow, just as Neville should have the other week against Stoke. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, the law states "prevents a clear  goal scoring opportunity" not "the last defending player". From where I was sitting Brown clearly prevented a goal scoring opportunity hence should go.

No, because as I said, Ferdinand was going to get some kind of tackle in - and in fact he did.

[luke25]

Im convinced, from where I was, high up in the Holte that in the build up to their equaliser the ball went out of play off one of them but the linesman gave it their way? Have I imagined it or made a mistake as nobody seems to have mentioned it

[hilts_coolerking]

It was crucial that Downing and Ashley stepped up today because they are the players the youngsters will look to.  I thought both were a bit quiet in the first half, and Ashley in particular, had a very poor start.  But in the second half they were both terrific.

Albrighton was terrific all day though.  I don't want to get carried away because so many young players have never fulfilled their early promise but for one so young he is remarkably consistent.  Okay he sometimes takes the wrong option but that's about footballing nouse rather than ability, and he'll learn that as the games go by.

[CJ]

Im convinced, from where I was, high up in the Holte that in the build up to their equaliser the ball went out of play off one of them but the linesman gave it their way? Have I imagined it or made a mistake as nobody seems to have mentioned it

I thought it should have been our throw too - one to watch for on MOTD

[hilts_coolerking]

No, because as I said, Ferdinand was going to get some kind of tackle in - and in fact he did.

Agreed - the Brown one was a definite pen but not a sending off.  I can't fathom though why Nani wasn't sent off - he can only have been booked for use of the arm and that has to be sending off offence doesn't it?

[Ger Regan]

How on earth Vidic, Brown and Hernandez all saw the end of the game is beyond me. We should have put it beyond doubt, and I think with a few older and more experienced heads on the bench we would have done it today. Ce la vie. Feck off Mike Dean, never seen you have a good game and hope you are demoted to the rymans north farter 6th division where your decisions will still be wrong but you won't get the protection of 40 stewards. The man is a total disgrace to refing, and has a hideous style, favours the biggest clubs all the time and should have his pointy hand shoved up his pointy arse. Twat.

Don't forget about Nani. That elbow was touch and go red, and he also handballed that could easily have been a second yellow.

[jembob]

Another entertaining game and excellent performance. Can't add much to what already has been said, but I think that Gordon Cowans deserves to be praised for doing such a good job bringing this new generation of players through. My heart sank a bit when I saw that Hogg was playing, not because of his ability but because of his lack of experience against the likes of Carrick and Park. Him and Bannan did a terrific job. I would have settled for a draw at 12:45 today.

Even though Manure aren't at their best, they were still able to bring on quality subs who can turn a game. We had players of the bench that we don't even have photos for the team line up! Hopefully some of the youngsters will use today's game as a learning experience i.e. how to cheat, how to almost rip another player's shirt off without committing a foul, etc.

We all know the history of manure at VP in recent years and it was refreshing to see our team leaving the pitch gutted that they had only drawn. This was a valuable match for the squad even if we didn't take 3 points.

Our second goal was great and as good a team goal as you'll see in a while. Albrighton is tying to win Goal of the Month on his own.

I defended Refs on another thread earlier this week but today's excuse was a disgrace. A complete, incompetent bottler who clearly thinks that deliberate handball is OK, shirt tugging is acceptable and only has to book every other player that decides to celebrate a goal with their fans. I can understand Refs making mistakes, but I just want them to be impartial and to be equally as shit to both teams.

[hilts_coolerking]

From RedCafe:

"Great dynamic match to watch. After a good start from us, where we dominated the midfield, the Villa youngsters found their feet and started causing problems. Respect for this. Impressed by Hogg, Bannan and Albrighton. Brown and Evra had a tought time with Albrighton and Downing. Poor showing from Berba and Hernandez, nothing seemed to work for them. Hat off to the team for not giving up and coming back to keep the unbeaten run."

and

"Big point gained when we should've lost. Villa were brilliant, only when substitutes came on did we bother to do anything of note."

Mind you, there was also:

"Glad we won. that was some fight back."

[Dan England]

I'd like Villa to question why neither Brown nor Vidic were sent off today.  Not through the media, but quietly and quickly.  We've been fucked over by bottler refs against these too many times.

Don't forget Nani's retaliation on Warnock and also an argument could be made for Hernandez getting a yellow for kicking the ball away after knowing he was offside.

It's annoying as we should only be congratulating our players on a pretty sublime performance but they continuously get away with murder against us.  Yes, Hernandez should've gone too.  They have better players so them getting the rub of the green as well is pretty hard to take.

I'm ok with Brown only getting a yellow, Ferdinand was going to get some kind of challenge in, so he wasn't the last man.

Vidic should have had a second yellow, just as Neville should have the other week against Stoke. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, the law states "prevents a clear  goal scoring opportunity" not "the last defending player". From where I was sitting Brown clearly prevented a goal scoring opportunity hence should go.

No, because as I said, Ferdinand was going to get some kind of tackle in - and in fact he did.

Won't argue as I was in the lower north so not the best view, will have at a look at the replays on MOTD. Still feel like a great performance was marred by poor refereeing yet again.

[CJ]

Oh, and another thing - what's the betting that on MOTD jug ears and his useless pundit chums will go on about how Manure had Scholes, Giggs and Rooney out but not mention that we were missing Heskey, Carew, Petrov, NRC, Delph, Sidwell, Ireland, Cuellar, Beye, Clark, Weimann.............

[Lucky Eddie]

That was absolutely fantastic and made me very proud of our youth.

Well done Villa.

[Somniloquism]

Im convinced, from where I was, high up in the Holte that in the build up to their equaliser the ball went out of play off one of them but the linesman gave it their way? Have I imagined it or made a mistake as nobody seems to have mentioned it

i don't know about that but within the first minute one of theirs hoofs the ball, it doesn't touch Warnock or Nani or jump for the ball and they gave Manure the throw in. (Admittedly it should have been a foul against Warnock but that isn't the point).

[Ads]

 Just listened to the Fergie interview. He said they could have lost six in the second half. Pity we sat back and played on their reputation, but there are huge positives that we can take from the game.