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Offline villa for life

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #150 on: November 11, 2010, 05:10:27 PM »
In Gh's criticism of Carew, he referred to statistics...which is why I hold a glimmer of hope that he'll give the Fonz an extended run...surely his goal per min ratio is as good as anyone's at the club.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #151 on: November 11, 2010, 05:29:00 PM »
Nathan looked as though the world was off his shoulders when he scored, he looked really relieved, so hopefully he will still get a chance.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #152 on: November 11, 2010, 05:35:29 PM »
Delfouneso doesn't look like he's got much pace at all.

Good finish for the goal and the header, but other chances when the ball went across the face he wasn't as sharp as I expected.

Maybe that's just match practice at this level.
match sharpness is different to pace..

he will only get match sharp by playing games...

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #153 on: November 11, 2010, 05:42:31 PM »
Delfouneso has definatley got pace, we have all seen this in previous games he has played, he was just slow at reacting last night which is probably match sharpness.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #154 on: November 11, 2010, 06:06:29 PM »
Nathan looked as though the world was off his shoulders when he scored, he looked really relieved, so hopefully he will still get a chance.

I don't quite agree, I think the pressure lifted when he 'scored' the header, I said in the match thread he looked a different player after that, you could see the confidence come back and his goal was all about that confidence, very good finish and truly excellent timing to his run.  None of our other strikers would've scored that in my opinion.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #155 on: November 11, 2010, 07:17:40 PM »
Nathan looked as though the world was off his shoulders when he scored, he looked really relieved, so hopefully he will still get a chance.

I don't quite agree, I think the pressure lifted when he 'scored' the header, I said in the match thread he looked a different player after that, you could see the confidence come back and his goal was all about that confidence, very good finish and truly excellent timing to his run.  None of our other strikers would've scored that in my opinion.

True, Just before he scored we starting singing for Gabby and I thought that could knock his confidence, but he scored literally straight away. I would have gone 442 with gabby instead of taking him straight off.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #156 on: November 11, 2010, 07:28:31 PM »
Delfouneso has definatley got pace, we have all seen this in previous games he has played, he was just slow at reacting last night which is probably match sharpness.
He didn't seem very pacey to me, but TBF it's all still a bit new to him and he'll need time to get some match experience.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #157 on: March 01, 2013, 01:17:56 PM »
I wonder if The Fonz will be much use if we go down.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #158 on: March 01, 2013, 01:22:00 PM »
I think we may keep him on, but I still don't see him being a regular. In all honesty, he's probably gonna end up in League 1 or 2. (Not with us hopefully!).

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #159 on: March 01, 2013, 09:59:43 PM »
I think we may keep him on, but I still don't see him being a regular. In all honesty, he's probably gonna end up in League 1 or 2. (Not with us hopefully!).

I'm glad you added the bit in brackets but you never know!

Offline Bottom Right 89

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #160 on: March 02, 2013, 10:43:10 AM »
My view is for whatever reason Fonzy fell out of love with the club, he was going great at the start a bit like Marc Albrighton then it all went wrong. He's definitely got the talent for the premier league but needed to play regularly and needed to toughen up, from what I've seen he's done that at Blackpool and I'd like to see him given another chance in the Summer especially as we may lose a couple of forwards and not have the money for replacements.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #161 on: March 02, 2013, 10:56:24 AM »
I think part of Fonzies problem has been his work ethic. From when he broke through at 17 or whatever, to now at 22, he's not really improved a lot. He's not really had a run for us, fair enough, but you'd still expect him to really develop a bit more, particularly his awareness on the pitch. He's got plenty of natural ability. That's not the be all and end all.

Again it goes back to the Gabby and Moore's comparison. Gabby didn't have the talent that Stefan and especially Luke had, but he's worked incredibly hard on his game over the years. He's been a regular in our side for 6-7 years now. Stefan disappeared. Luke's clawed back some sort of EPL career, though I suspect when his contract is up at Swansea, he'll be in the Championship at best.

Fonz probably will get another chance here though. He's got to really work his bollocks off.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #162 on: March 02, 2013, 11:36:35 AM »
Fonz can work as hard as he wants, he still will not be good enough at this level just like many others we have had hopes for. It just seems to be the way football works, some players with brilliant potential just don't end up making it where others do. Some players lack the attitude, others just end up at a young age as good as they are ever going to be.

I won't mention names but I know a few footballers. My best mate at school was a phenomenal talent and at 16 was playing for a prem club, top scorer every season in the youth leagues, a really nice and switched on lad. At 18 he was dropped from this club and is now working as a manager in a phone shop. I spoke to another footballer who I know very well who was in the youth team with him and had a spell at West Ham although is now in league 1. I spoke to this player about my school mate and he said he was the best player he had ever played with by far and he had played with the likes of Lampard, Joe Cole ect.

Morale of the story? Regardless of what happens, most going players despite having spells in the first team just don't make it because they lack the ability to make the step up. This is the case for the Fonz, Weimann has shown the contrast between a player who is going to make it and a player who isn't.

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #163 on: March 02, 2013, 11:39:55 AM »
I liked Fonz. He does seem to be one of these players who needs a run in a team though. I'd have him on our bench over Bowery at the moment.

Offline eastie

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Re: Reserves - now the Fonz debate
« Reply #164 on: March 02, 2013, 12:16:29 PM »
I liked Fonz. He does seem to be one of these players who needs a run in a team though. I'd have him on our bench over Bowery at the moment.

Fonz is a confidence player - a run of games and goals can transform him but his head tends to drop when things go wrong - he has ability , i certainly think in the championship he would be a potent weapon.

 


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