collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Squad 25/26 by algy
[Today at 06:48:32 AM]


Damian Vidagany - Director of Football by Toronto Villa
[Today at 03:52:03 AM]


Other Games 2025-26 by Toronto Villa
[Today at 03:50:03 AM]


FFP by Rory
[Today at 01:04:34 AM]


Going West - Brentford away by Brend'Watkins
[Today at 12:57:13 AM]


Alex Moreno - Gone by eamonn
[Today at 12:20:33 AM]


Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by eamonn
[Today at 12:01:40 AM]


Unai Emery by eamonn
[August 21, 2025, 11:50:58 PM]

Recent Posts

Re: Squad 25/26 by algy
[Today at 06:48:32 AM]


Re: Squad 25/26 by ChicagoLion
[Today at 06:26:10 AM]


Re: Damian Vidagany - Director of Football by Toronto Villa
[Today at 03:52:03 AM]


Re: Other Games 2025-26 by Toronto Villa
[Today at 03:50:03 AM]


Re: FFP by Rory
[Today at 01:04:34 AM]


Re: Going West - Brentford away by Brend'Watkins
[Today at 12:57:13 AM]


Re: Squad 25/26 by stevo_st
[Today at 12:55:38 AM]


Going West - Brentford away by dave.woodhall
[Today at 12:37:56 AM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Stewart Downing amnesty.  (Read 40484 times)

Offline hawkeye

  • Member
  • Posts: 8973
  • GM : Jun, 2012
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #120 on: November 13, 2010, 08:59:00 PM »
i'm obviously not his bigest fan,
but i feel a bit guilty of posting negative stuff on a day when we were superb, and Downing did play his part,
so even though i try to post with honest opinions, i appolagise for looking like i'm throwing a stick through the spokes.

i am really delighted by Villa's performance today, truly outstanding, overall one of the best in recent times.


ill second that mate, there is more to be happy about than sad

Offline Matt C

  • Member
  • Posts: 6226
  • Location: Southern California
  • GM : 18.06.2020
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #121 on: November 13, 2010, 09:17:39 PM »
Deserves to be back in the England squad.

Offline Ross

  • Member
  • Posts: 1925
  • Location: backward point
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #122 on: November 13, 2010, 09:28:56 PM »
I 'slated' him last season - and he deserved it.  A £12M player who looked half-fit and disinterested, and above all seemed to lack heart and desire in a team that had those qualities in plenty.

I am pleased he is playing well now, perhaps thanks to that mythical 'full pre-season', but he isn't doing any more than I expected a £12M international to do.  He's doing his job now, and fair play to him, but I don't think his current contribution should be laid on too thick. He needs to do what he is doing now for a much longer period.

Online Dave

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47666
  • Location: Bath
  • GM : 16.09.2025
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #123 on: November 13, 2010, 09:32:38 PM »
I 'slated' him last season - and he deserved it.  A £12M player who looked half-fit and disinterested, and above all seemed to lack heart and desire in a team that had those qualities in plenty.

I am pleased he is playing well now, perhaps thanks to that mythical 'full pre-season', but he isn't doing any more than I expected a £12M international to do.  He's doing his job now, and fair play to him, but I don't think his current contribution should be laid on too thick. He needs to do what he is doing now for a much longer period.
I still don't see where £12m has come from.

According to O'Neill:

Quote
"£10m is a bargain. It's great value and he's a superb acquisition."

Offline hilts_coolerking

  • Member
  • Posts: 14614
  • Location: Kennington
  • GM : 26.07.2021
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #124 on: November 13, 2010, 09:33:41 PM »
I 'slated' him last season - and he deserved it.  A £12M player who looked half-fit and disinterested, and above all seemed to lack heart and desire in a team that had those qualities in plenty.

I am pleased he is playing well now, perhaps thanks to that mythical 'full pre-season', but he isn't doing any more than I expected a £12M international to do.  He's doing his job now, and fair play to him, but I don't think his current contribution should be laid on too thick. He needs to do what he is doing now for a much longer period.
I still don't see where £12m has come from.

According to O'Neill:

Quote
"£10m is a bargain. It's great value and he's a superb acquisition."
An extra £2M depending on appearances, apparently.

Offline Ross

  • Member
  • Posts: 1925
  • Location: backward point
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #125 on: November 13, 2010, 09:40:14 PM »
Regardless of whether its £10M or £12M, he is the most expensive signing in our squad. He should be doing the business, and I am glad he is now.  But some of the gushing stuff on here is a bit rich.

Offline john2710

  • Member
  • Posts: 3091
  • Location: Hall Green
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #126 on: November 13, 2010, 09:52:10 PM »
Without question he has been our most consistent player this season. No he won't ever go flying into 50-50 challenges, but that's not his role in the team. For those who've been eagar to critisise, it's time to move on to another victim.

Offline Toronto Villa

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 58583
  • Age: 52
  • Location: Toronto, Canada
  • GM : 23.07.2026
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #127 on: November 13, 2010, 09:56:13 PM »
Regardless of whether its £10M or £12M, he is the most expensive signing in our squad. He should be doing the business, and I am glad he is now.  But some of the gushing stuff on here is a bit rich.

If he was playing this well for someone else, would you pay more than £10M or £12M for him? I think he's worth more than that given what some teams shell out for footballers these days. And those amounts aren't exactly world records and for a top PL team that is a pretty middling trasfer fee to have paid for a player. We wax lyrical about other teams players all the time. How about we do it for one of ours when they do well?

Online Dave

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47666
  • Location: Bath
  • GM : 16.09.2025
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #128 on: November 13, 2010, 10:04:49 PM »
£10/12m.

About what Everton paid for Bilyaletdinov, Spurs paid for Palacious and Keane, what Man City paid for Barry, what Fulham paid for Andy Johnson and what Liverpool paid for Babel.

If that's the crazy market that we're living in, then he is worth every penny.

And yes, there are obviously cheaper players than him who are probably doing better. But that doesn't mean he isn't worth what we paid for him.

Offline Somniloquism

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 33295
  • Location: Back in Brum
  • GM : 06.12.2025
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #129 on: November 13, 2010, 10:11:49 PM »
And yes, there are obviously cheaper players than him who are probably doing better. But that doesn't mean he isn't worth what we paid for him.

Talking about that the other stick used to beat him with is that Johnson was the better winger for £7mil. What has happened to him recently? Has he fallen out with Mancini or injured?

Online Dave

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 47666
  • Location: Bath
  • GM : 16.09.2025
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #130 on: November 13, 2010, 10:29:58 PM »
And yes, there are obviously cheaper players than him who are probably doing better. But that doesn't mean he isn't worth what we paid for him.

Talking about that the other stick used to beat him with is that Johnson was the better winger for £7mil. What has happened to him recently? Has he fallen out with Mancini or injured?
Mancini just thinks that Yaya Touré is a better attacker.

*chuckle*

Offline Somniloquism

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 33295
  • Location: Back in Brum
  • GM : 06.12.2025
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #131 on: November 14, 2010, 12:28:32 AM »
And yes, there are obviously cheaper players than him who are probably doing better. But that doesn't mean he isn't worth what we paid for him.

Talking about that the other stick used to beat him with is that Johnson was the better winger for £7mil. What has happened to him recently? Has he fallen out with Mancini or injured?
Mancini just thinks that Yaya Touré is a better attacker.

*chuckle*

He actually played today. Looks like he might have been "found out" although Blues having 10 men back wouldn't have helped trying to get through them.

Offline Matt Collins

  • Member
  • Posts: 10884
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #132 on: November 14, 2010, 08:22:41 AM »
The problem for Johnson I'd that you can only do the same trick to go outside the left back with your left foot so many times. He needs tobplay on the left more.

Offline N'ZMAV

  • Member
  • Posts: 10090
  • Location: Peckham
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #133 on: November 14, 2010, 10:13:59 AM »
Downing was first class yesterday. He's doing well cutting in from the wing. Stronger on his right peg than I thought he was.

Offline Lee

  • Member
  • Posts: 11061
  • Location: Tividale - on the South Staffs Thick
    • http://astonvilla.blogfootball.com/BlackCountryVilla/
  • GM : Jul, 2014
Re: Stewart Downing amnesty.
« Reply #134 on: November 14, 2010, 10:22:19 AM »
Initially, I thought that he started really well when his Villa career finally started after his injury, but after this point, he became a bit of a luxury and not living up to his price tag.

However, I have to say that he was fantastic yesterday and he has been a lot more consistent this season. Long may it continue.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal