England: How do you stand?

[KevinGage]

 It's internet speak, all the cool kids use it. I'm not back in school in English class.

Never ceases to amaze me that people who need ostentatious displays of patriotism such as yourself don't extend this love of country to learning the English language. LOL YMCA SWALK.

[Dave Cooper please]

You're living on another planet buddy.

1. Yes, if you're English, you support England, why would you not support England when you're English. I litterally cannot get my head around that. Imagine England winning the World Cup, someone see's your miserable face and asks "why do you look suicidal?" and then you reply with an English accent "I don't like or support England"... I can assure you, I know quite a diverse crowd from all different backgrounds and they would all think you're a fcuking idiot and would actually pity you that you have that sort of mentality. You don't even have to like football to support England as long as you're English it doesn't matter! I was surrounded by girls in their early 20's who don't really know much about football, but like David Beckham and his looks, but still, they cheered when England played USA going wild when Gerrard scored.

2. It's internet speak, all the cool kids use it. I'm not back in school in English class.

3. Anyone being anti-English (despite being English lolwut?) when it comes to sport is an idiot and hypocrite as far I'm concerned. In all honesty, I don't believe a word your saying about being anti-England national team, I think you're just being a wind up merchant wanting attention.

@Paul_e good post, I agree with what you're saying.

@DaveWoodhall being patriotic but not caring for the England football team... lol, nice oxymoron.

@The Situation WTF, am I on Twitter (yes I know teh internetz spk, but as I've got a keyboard I don't feel the need to use it).

1. If England won the World Cup I wouldn't be miserable, I just wouldn't really care that much. Some fucking idiot might ask me why I wasn't pissed as a fart on Wife Beater and smashing up a pub while draped in a flag of St. George but as I'll be at home and nowhere near a pub when it happens I doubt it.

2. twt

3. I'm not anti-English when it comes to sport, I love England winning The Ashes, I cheer on our athletes, rowers and cyclists, I even raised a little cheer when our hockey team won the Olympics that time, I just don't give a flying fuck about the England football team.

I am a wind-up merchant though.

And you don't understand the meaning of oxymoron.

[Chico Hamilton III]

The Situation, how long have you been going to England games for?

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

I really don't like the word lolwut.

I haven't got a clue what the last three letters mean, rofl!

[paul_e]

I don't quite get how you can like my post and still not understand why people say they don't care, that's the situation in a nutshell and I know a lot of people who feel exactly the, we'll watch england games but it's not a big thing to us and if we have something else come up it's not the end of the world, whereas other teams (villa being the obvious on this forum) or sports (cricket, athletics, rugby) it's a bigger issue.

I don't know how old you are but I'd have a guess you're early 20s at most, a lot of the people you're talking to here are a lot older and have had to put up with the same shit regarding the england national team for longer than you've been alive, eventually it drains on you and you just don't have the interest any more.  It's not performances so much as the whole package, being told we're going to win easily, failing miserably and then seeing the same team playing the next game as if there's nothing gone wrong, and the underlying issues being swept under the carpet after every half decent performance.

It's not so much anti-england as just pure apathy.

**Sorry for calling you all old.. **

[paul_e]

Oops, sorry, meant to edit the other post not reply to myself...

[LeeB]

I'm thinking of resigning from being English after reading Gibbo and The Situation. I clearly don't deserve such a mantle.

[The Situation]

Dave Cooper; you're English and you wouldn't care one bit if England won the World Cup? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Would you watch England play in the World Cup final? What about if a Villa player scored in the last minute to win the World Cup? Of course you'd be happy if England won the World Cup, of course you would watch England if they were playing in the World Cup final and of course you'd be happy to see a Villa player score the winning goal. Like I said, I know toffs who are more into their cricket and rugby but would still be happy if England won the World Cup and would watch England play in the World Cup final sitting on the edges of their seat... because, despite being more into cricket and rugby... THEY'RE ENGLISH.

Chico; I have not been to an England match.

paul_e; wait a minute... you'll still all watch the England games? I thought the England team were all w*nkers etc...? This is what I don't quite understand.

Lee; I'm only 1/4 English but you don't see me acting anti-English towards the England football team, so how can 100% English people on here be anti-English towards the England football team?

[LeeB]

No one dislikes them because they're English.

[KevinGage]

If -for the sake of argument- we had four Dutch players in the Villa side and they played Ing ur lund it would be the Villa players who would get my backing.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Chico; I have not been to an England match

If we'd had a Man United fan on here, telling us how much he loved Man United, how he would cheer them on if they win a trophy, how he can't understand why everybody dosent share his love for Man United but he'd never actually seen them play except for in the pub, on the big screen, he'd be able to hear people on here laughing at him from miles away.

After all that patriotic nonsense you've been spouting, you've never seen an England game???

[LeeS]

Question to The Situation

How did you feel when England lost to New Zealand in the hockey earlier today?

Personally I felt a tinge of sadness. But I am not crying into my laptop because Hockey isnt my thing. Does that make me unpatriotic? I presume you are nearly suicidal, am I right? Have you lowered your England flag to half mast outside your house? I'm sure you and your mates will be asking people in the pub later why they are having fun and smiling after England's terrible defeat. It is England who lost after all. Everyone who was born in England and is English supports England. Why would they not?

So like I say, I'm not overly bothered about it. But I feel ten times worse about that than I did about the England game the other night. I dont know the names of a single hockey player (although I remember Imran Shiwani and Sean Curly from the victorious GB team in Seoul 88). I didnt watch the game, I just read about it on the BBC website. But I was able to put myself in the players shoes - just for a few seconds - and imagine how they felt after all the training, all the hope, all the expectation. They are not professionals, they are just ordinary working people like me who happen to excel in a particular sport. I can identify with them. I absolutely cannot identify with Wazza, Steevie G and the other arseholes who disrespect my country every time they pull on an England shirt and play like they dont give a fuck.

So I'll make my own decisions about who and what I care about and leave you to cry over our loss in the 2 badminton finals earlier today.

[The Situation]

I'm 1/4 English, why should I have to go to an England game? I'm not a patriotic English fan, I just like to see England do well, that's all. I just think it's all a bit sad and pathetic listening to people on the internet despite being 100% English being anti-English towards the England football team saying silly things like ''I wouldn't really care if England won the World Cup".

Lee; football is the national sport... no-one cares about field hockey.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Chico; I have not been to an England match

If we'd had a Man United fan on here, telling us how much he loved Man United, how he would cheer them on if they win a trophy, how he can't understand why everybody dosent share his love for Man United but he'd never actually seen them play except for in the pub, on the big screen, he'd be able to hear people on here laughing at him from miles away.

After all that patriotic nonsense you've been spouting, you've never seen an England game???

As the mighty Nick Heyward once sang
Take that, Situation.

[Chris Harte]

It must be wonderful to live in a world where everything is either black or white...