England: How do you stand?

[john e]

Oh dear Chico... you 'hate' England despite being English? Like I said 'lolwut'

We don't hate the England team, we just don't care enough. Sorry if you can't get your head around that.

its all about the prem now and SKY tv,
 international football will go the way of the League Cup and EUFA cup, probably already has,

'Super Sunday' is where its at now, not some England qualifier which cost us our weekend fix of the super prem

[The Situation]

Yeah, but all the people who say they don't 'care' for the English team are just being fickle... are you honestly telling me you wouldn't care or watch the World Cup final if England were playing in it? This is what i'm talking about, poor attitude.

[dave.woodhall]

Yeah, but all the people who say they don't 'care' for the English team are just being fickle... are you honestly telling me you wouldn't care or watch the World Cup final if England were playing in it? This is what i'm talking about, poor attitude.

"All" the people? I wouldn't care, for a start. 

[Clampy]

Yeah, but all the people who say they don't 'care' for the English team are just being fickle... are you honestly telling me you wouldn't care or watch the World Cup final if England were playing in it? This is what i'm talking about, poor attitude.

Of course i'd watch it and of course i'd want them to win, but i would'nt lose too much sleep over it if they did'nt.

[john e]

Yeah, but all the people who say they don't 'care' for the English team are just being fickle... are you honestly telling me you wouldn't care or watch the World Cup final if England were playing in it? This is what i'm talking about, poor attitude.

to be honest, i dont think we need worry to much about this happening just yet

[The Situation]

Yeah, but all the people who say they don't 'care' for the English team are just being fickle... are you honestly telling me you wouldn't care or watch the World Cup final if England were playing in it? This is what i'm talking about, poor attitude.

Of course i'd watch it and of course i'd want them to win, but i would'nt lose too much sleep over it if they did'nt.

Nor would I lose too much sleep if England lost in the World Cup final... I'd initially be a bit gutted, but a couple of beers and I'd be fine again.

It's good to now establish that England fans don't really care about the England national team unless they're doing really well. Imagine standing in a pub full of England fans just as England lift the World Cup and you see one person looking disinterested, go over to them and ask why, upon hearing an English accent you hear "I'm English BUT, I don't care for the national team", everyone would think you're an oddball lol. I know a few Hoorah Henry's who are more into their cricket and rugby union, but I know they'd be really happy if England won the World Cup.

[Shrek]

Yeah, but all the people who say they don't 'care' for the English team are just being fickle... are you honestly telling me you wouldn't care or watch the World Cup final if England were playing in it? This is what i'm talking about, poor attitude.

Spot on fickle and hypocritical. People are using one rule for Villa an then a totally different one for England.

It's people like those on here, with bad attitudes and single-minded views, which has contributed to the negative media frenzy surrounding England.

I bet you were all great England fans in 1990 or 96 against Scotland.

Absolutly pathetic views off supposed 'football fans'.

[dave.woodhall]

Yeah, but all the people who say they don't 'care' for the English team are just being fickle... are you honestly telling me you wouldn't care or watch the World Cup final if England were playing in it? This is what i'm talking about, poor attitude.

Spot on fickle and hypocritical. People are using one rule for Villa an then a totally different one for England.

It's people like those on here, with bad attitudes and single-minded views, which has contributed to the negative media frenzy surrounding England.

I bet you were all great England fans in 1990 or 96 against Scotland.

Absolutly pathetic views off supposed 'football fans'.

You're not quite getting the point here.

[freakypete]

england national team?? no passion ,just overated over paid and not as good as they think they are,if it wasnt for the invasion of foreign players the premier league would be just average anyway.

[TheSandman]

If it had anything to do with a lack of success I don't think these 'fickle' England fans would be talking about it on a Villa forum.

[Shrek]

england national team?? no passion ,just overated over paid and not as good as they think they are,if it wasnt for the invasion of foreign players the premier league would be just average anyway.

But against hungry there was passion!

Where was the passion with Villa at Newcastle?
Or at Chelsea last season.

But villa had plenty against west ham and Everton.

So hypocritical!

[freakypete]

being honest doesnt make you fickle, just shows your living in the real world not the world of hype and make beleive

[Brend'Watkins]

Yeah, but all the people who say they don't 'care' for the English team are just being fickle... are you honestly telling me you wouldn't care or watch the World Cup final if England were playing in it? This is what i'm talking about, poor attitude.

Spot on fickle and hypocritical. People are using one rule for Villa an then a totally different one for England.

That's me in a nut shell.  I'm a one man team, my club. 

[Nev]

I can only echo Chico's comments regarding the sudden about turn in supporting players like Rooney et al. One minute they score against my team, run to my supporters and take the piss and a week later I'm supposed to cheer them on? I don't fuckin' think so.

I take a passing interest in the national side because I'm a football fan, but if our players acted in the way those that represent England do on a regular basis, and without censure, I would be embarrassed and ashamed.

And Fat Franks comment after the Germany game tells you all you need to know in the endless quest to explain away Englands dire record since 1966.

[Clampy]

england national team?? no passion ,just overated over paid and not as good as they think they are,if it wasnt for the invasion of foreign players the premier league would be just average anyway.

But against hungry there was passion!

Where was the passion with Villa at Newcastle?
Or at Chelsea last season.

But villa had plenty against west ham and Everton.

So hypocritical!

It sounds like you're trying to suggest that we should feel the same about England as we do about Villa.

If you enjoy watching England, then fine, but don't assume that everyone else should share the same passion as you. Losing 6-0 up at Newcastle bothered me more than England losing 4-1 to Germany.