New Stadiums, Why ?

[dave.woodhall]

Great. Let's spend money we haven't got, on seats we don't need, so away supporters can hear songs about a team we aren't playing.

[TimTheVillain]

Great. Let's spend money we haven't got, on seats we don't need, so away supporters can hear songs about a team we aren't playing.

Bit like a ham sandwich really !!

[Tezmond]

HOK sports division became populous a few years back. I'm not sure that lack of noise at VP is due to open corners, I suspect that sloping roofs are the bigger culprit to the bad acoustics (reflecting sound back, oversight on architects part - too obsessed with sightlines and human traffic through concourses).

For all the rhetoric on here about old grounds, we've got a 30 year old stand that was past it's sell by date years ago, a monstrous carbunkle of a main stand and a two tiered "kop" that should never have been two tiers and a cramped Witton Lane stand due to space restrictions that blocks the view of the Lower Holte as the architects never bothered to join the corners properly.

Identikit - NO, architects who do their job properly - YES.

[TimTheVillain]

HOK sports division became populous a few years back. I'm not sure that lack of noise at VP is due to open corners, I suspect that sloping roofs are the bigger culprit to the bad acoustics (reflecting sound back, oversight on architects part - too obsessed with sightlines and human traffic through concourses).

For all the rhetoric on here about old grounds, we've got a 30 year old stand that was past it's sell by date years ago, a monstrous carbunkle of a main stand and a two tiered "kop" that should never have been two tiers and a cramped Witton Lane stand due to space restrictions that blocks the view of the Lower Holte as the architects never bothered to join the corners properly.

Identikit - NO, architects who do their job properly - YES.

Architects working to an non £llis brief too next time round.

[Chico Hamilton III]

we've got a 30 year old stand that was past it's sell by date years ago,

I love the North Stand. Years ahead of its time when it was built.

I first sat in the North Stand 33 years ago this very day.  3-0 against Norwich ( Little and Gray).

[Lucky Eddie]

'Non Ellis brief'!

The same Ellis that commissioned the construction of the new Holte End - the finest stand in the world?

Whilst none of us will ever forgive the passing of the Trinity, the new Holte and for that matter The Witton Lane are as 'traditional' as you'll find anywhere in Britain.

[dave.woodhall]

Next time you look at the Holte, try to work out how much space there is in the corners for sound to get lost out of.

[PaulTheVillan]

Next time you look at the Holte, try to work out how much space there is in the corners for sound to get lost out of.

Where do you sit, Dave?

[peter w]

If you think Highbury is better than the Emirates, your quite mad

I thought Highbury was far better than the Emirates. Still do.

I can't think of a new ground that is actually better than the old one it replaced.

Bigger, maybe, but not better

Have to agree, I really didn't see anything special about The Emirates when I was there. It was just a big stadium. Nothing against clubs that can fill them, great, but I too preferred Highbury.

[TimTheVillain]

'Non Ellis brief'!

The same Ellis that commissioned the construction of the new Holte End - the finest stand in the world?

Whilst none of us will ever forgive the passing of the Trinity, the new Holte and for that matter The Witton Lane are as 'traditional' as you'll find anywhere in Britain.

The intelligent post above mine has it almost spot on.

The Holte should not have been divided into Upper and Lower.

The Witton Lane is a dreadful looking stand;it should have been joined with the Holte - traditional is not always best - moving forward with change not always a bad thing !

It is the same £llis, yes.

[dave.woodhall]

Next time you look at the Holte, try to work out how much space there is in the corners for sound to get lost out of.

Where do you sit, Dave?

In the North Stand.

[dave.woodhall]

The intelligent post above mine has it almost spot on.

The Holte should not have been divided into Upper and Lower.

The Witton Lane is a dreadful looking stand;it should have been joined with the Holte - traditional is not always best - moving forward with change not always a bad thing !

It is the same £llis, yes.

The Holte had to be two-tier to allow sightlines to fall within guidlines. To get that many seats in a single tier the back row would have been roughly level with Mac's bus stop. It's also generally agreed that having individual stands is what makes our ground so characteristic. 

[exigo]

So if we filled the corners in the Holte End would suddenly come up with a whole catalogue of witty and erudite chants?

Loads.

Erudite chants galore in fact.

Erudite chants m'lord

[TimTheVillain]

So if we filled the corners in the Holte End would suddenly come up with a whole catalogue of witty and erudite chants?

Loads.

Erudite chants galore in fact.

Erudite chants m'lord

I've always said it, you just can't beat a good old erudite chant ;-)

[Lucky Eddie]

'Non Ellis brief'!

The same Ellis that commissioned the construction of the new Holte End - the finest stand in the world?

Whilst none of us will ever forgive the passing of the Trinity, the new Holte and for that matter The Witton Lane are as 'traditional' as you'll find anywhere in Britain.

The intelligent post above mine has it almost spot on.

The Holte should not have been divided into Upper and Lower.

The Witton Lane is a dreadful looking stand;it should have been joined with the Holte - traditional is not always best - moving forward with change not always a bad thing !

It is the same £llis, yes.

Oval plastic ground - no thanks. Four stands for me thank you very much.