Hooliganism on the rise?

[Lambert and Payne]

Its part of the game now.

I think the day you accept that is the day they win!  Will it ever be stamped out 100%?  Probably not, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.  I think the next step is education and campaigns like the one they had for anti-racism. 

If people want to fight they inevitably will, so lets try and stop them from wanting to.

A huge step towards this would be the banning of known hooligans, so that they can't recruit their next generation at an impressionable age.   

Thing is, as you say it wont be stamped out 100% so its part of the game really. I think we've been fighting it for so long that the ones that want to do it will anyway. Theyll always be the ones that see an oppertunity.

[nodge]

Bring back Raves and e's! That'll stop 'em!

[PaulTheVillan]

No hooliganism thread is complete without obligatory hooligan videos of grown men punching each other in the face, just because the other lot erm, well, because!
 

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Great videos.

If they fucking worked.

[Ads]

They work fine for me. Tell WMP to get better computers.

[PaulTheVillan]

They work fine for me. Tell WMP to get better computers.

I've passed your email onto the head of ICT for advice

[Dave Cooper please]

They are not 'football hooligans', they are ******.

Football is their excuse.

[Dave Cooper please]

Also, arent  the lower leagues getting larger attendances now ? The Conference used to be a league where only the big clubs would get above the 1,000 mark. Its now not unusual any weekend to see half the games getting crowds between 2,000 - 5,000 plus. 

Not really, although it has gone up a little bit as The Premier League has priced a few people out of top flight football, the main reason the Conference is seeing higher crowds is the amount of ex-league clubs who have found their way down there in the last few years. Luton, York, Cambridge, Darlington, Mansfield, Grimsby, Wrexham...all clubs with decent fan bases now plying their trade in non-league football. Plus AFC Wimbledon who have inherited their fans from Franchise FC.
 Clubs like Stevenage, Burton, Morecambe, Accrington and Dagenham meanwhile are not exactly packing them in now they are Football League clubs, it takes a while to build a fan base when you have spent years struggling to get 1000 through your turnstyles.

[jembob]

Saw this mentioned on BBC breakfast this morning with the headline that hooliganism amongst youths has trebled. While not wanting to sound as though its unimportant, its poor use of statistics. Something trebling sounds very high, until you realise its fairly low base figures to begin with.

I saw this on the BBC this morning too and the presenters were determined to try and make it into a real issue. The problem for them though was that the number of hooligans banned from games is less than 200 and the number of people going to games in a year is something like 39 million! Typical BBC though - tossers.

[Nastylee]

I feel pissed after watching the second one. Is it just me, or did nothing happen? Seemed to me like it was a load of blokes just shouting at each other.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

They are not 'football hooligans', they are c***s.

Football is their excuse.

Correct.

[PeterWithesShin]

I feel pissed after watching the second one. Is it just me, or did nothing happen? Seemed to me like it was a load of blokes just shouting at each other.

Can't be arsed watching it, but is it the one where they spend most of their time jumping up and down (safely out of harms way) and occasionally lob a bin at each other?

[villa1]

One thing's for sure, the camera man won't win any awards!

[AV82EC]

I feel pissed after watching the second one. Is it just me, or did nothing happen? Seemed to me like it was a load of blokes just shouting at each other.

Yep it seems to me that modern football hooliganism seems to consist of about 20 blokes aside facing each other off down a street and rather than getting stuck in, just standing there shouting at each other with their arms stretched wide.  Occasionally one "firm" will get a bit of a run on and the others will back off and vice versa.  It just looks so utterly fucking pointless, if you're going to have  a fight then have a fight and get stuck in don't stand there like a fucking scarecrow.

I followed the West Brom Villa link and looked at a few others which were all pretty much the same thing.  Shakes head.....

[Nastylee]

I feel pissed after watching the second one. Is it just me, or did nothing happen? Seemed to me like it was a load of blokes just shouting at each other.

Can't be arsed watching it, but is it the one where they spend most of their time jumping up and down (safely out of harms way) and occasionally lob a bin at each other?

I don't think it was even that interesting!

[Lambert and Payne]

Whats WBA away like? Is it rough for Villa fans?