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Offline Concrete John

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #150 on: September 20, 2010, 02:36:12 PM »
Martin may have bought some players late in the window, but he also had a couple in earlier.  So whay was that not the case this year is the better question.

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #151 on: September 20, 2010, 02:40:54 PM »
Martin may have bought some players late in the window, but he also had a couple in earlier.  So whay was that not the case this year is the better question.

Why do people ignore the fact we bought Ireland ?


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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #152 on: September 20, 2010, 02:45:09 PM »
Patrick Barclay in The Times is at it now, he says now that MON has left, 'Villa are on a slippery slope.'


He's the biggest O'Neill fan of the lot.
Yet another ill informed journo more than happy to suck his cock.

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #153 on: September 20, 2010, 03:00:21 PM »
Martin may have bought some players late in the window, but he also had a couple in earlier.  So whay was that not the case this year is the better question.

Why do people ignore the fact we bought Ireland ?

Because he wasn't bought. He was a make weight in a deal. We didn't specifically go to Man City and say here is £8mil for Ireland. They came to us and said we will offer 18mil plus Ireland for Milner.

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #154 on: September 20, 2010, 03:03:26 PM »
Martin may have bought some players late in the window, but he also had a couple in earlier.  So whay was that not the case this year is the better question.

Why do people ignore the fact we bought Ireland ?



No, but some do seem to forget the (relatively) early deals for the likes of Downing, NRC, etc. when postulating that Martin ONLY bought at the end of the window.

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #155 on: September 20, 2010, 03:04:12 PM »
Patrick Barclay in The Times is at it now, he says now that MON has left, 'Villa are on a slippery slope.'


He's the biggest O'Neill fan of the lot.
Yet another ill informed journo more than happy to suck his cock.

Is this the same Barclay that most fans praised (whether a MON Hater or Lover) as one of the best sports writers when he wrote good stuff last season?

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #156 on: September 20, 2010, 03:06:47 PM »
No, but some do seem to forget the (relatively) early deals for the likes of Downing, NRC, etc. when postulating that Martin ONLY bought at the end of the window.
Not sure who says he only bought at the end of the window, but VD highlighted that the "vast majority" of deals were before the last 3 weeks of summer window, which is simply not the case. Yes, there were early deals, but there were just as many late deals (10 that I can think of right now that happened within 3 weeks of the end of the season).

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #157 on: September 20, 2010, 03:12:37 PM »
I'm not going to dig up the facts and figures to show when players were bought and what percentage was/wasn't within a certain time frame from the end of the window.  The original point was (I think) that by leaving MON stopped us doing transfer deals.  However, if it was just his departure why the change from our normal pattern of at least having one or two in by the time he resigned?

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #158 on: September 20, 2010, 03:15:54 PM »
Patrick Barclay in The Times is at it now, he says now that MON has left, 'Villa are on a slippery slope.'


He's the biggest O'Neill fan of the lot.
Yet another ill informed journo more than happy to suck his cock.

Is this the same Barclay that most fans praised (whether a MON Hater or Lover) as one of the best sports writers when he wrote good stuff last season?

 People like being flattered. Barclay’s apparent write up was obviously due to O’Neill, who he adores like a love struck teen.

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #159 on: September 20, 2010, 03:20:04 PM »
Patrick Barclay in The Times is at it now, he says now that MON has left, 'Villa are on a slippery slope.'


He's the biggest O'Neill fan of the lot.
Yet another ill informed journo more than happy to suck his cock.

Is this the same Barclay that most fans praised (whether a MON Hater or Lover) as one of the best sports writers when he wrote good stuff last season?

 People like being flattered. Barclay’s apparent write up was obviously due to O’Neill, who he adores like a love struck teen.

So we can now confidently say all the press hate us or ignore us and we don't care (apart from when they don't hate us or we do care)

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #160 on: September 20, 2010, 03:23:15 PM »
What we can comfortably say is that great swathes of the press are unable to given any accurate analysis, given how little detail they are aware of about Aston Villa.

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #161 on: September 20, 2010, 03:25:42 PM »
Can some one tell me why in their opinion Mon would not have bought players as he usually did in the last few days of the window.
Its hardly the Boards fault Mon quit when he did leaving no options let along no viable coaching or managerial staff
Or is it ?

because it is a myth that he predominantly bought players in the last few days of the transfer window. Yes there were some but the vast majority of players were bought before the final week of the January transfer window and the final 3 weeks of the Summer transfer window.

So ignoring the facts again, he did buy plenty of players late on, as he did at every club he managed, why would he have not repeated that this summer, please tell.
As well tell me why Milner is a special case. The policy Mon and the club had was never to keep players who wanted to move. It was a convenient excuse for some with the likes of Cahill, Davies, Ridgewell, Gardner, and others in his early clear outs, so what makes Milner a special case, other than a convenient means to knock the Board.

I thought I heard Houllier in his press conference suggest that buying players in January was not that advisable anyway, so I wouldn't build up too many hopes. That by the way was also Mon's stated policy too.



What facts am I ignoring? I simply pointed out in response to your question, that under Martin O'Neill we have bought most of our players prior to the last 3 weeks of the window.




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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #162 on: September 20, 2010, 03:27:01 PM »
What facts am I ignoring? I simply pointed out in response to your question, that under Martin O'Neill we have bought most of our players prior to the last 3 weeks of the window.
Define most.

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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #163 on: September 20, 2010, 03:29:37 PM »
Patrick Barclay in The Times is at it now, he says now that MON has left, 'Villa are on a slippery slope.'


He's the biggest O'Neill fan of the lot.
Yet another ill informed journo more than happy to suck his cock.

Is this the same Barclay that most fans praised (whether a MON Hater or Lover) as one of the best sports writers when he wrote good stuff last season?

 People like being flattered. Barclay’s apparent write up was obviously due to O’Neill, who he adores like a love struck teen.

Yes, he appears to like and rate O'Neill - is that not allowed now or is there an H & V Fatwa out on him? It seems were getting back into the territory of trying to dismiss the opinions of anyone who doesn't adhere 100% to the party line as worthless.


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Re: A selling club.
« Reply #164 on: September 20, 2010, 03:35:34 PM »
 He can like him as much as he wants, but you have to question the judgement of somebody so in love with another. He may well know a bit about Aston Villa. But if he’s anything like Custis, Holt et al, then I’d suggest he does not.
 

 


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