Stoke City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[whydelilah]

I'm still scratching my head as to how we lost that.
I fucking hate Stoke and I hope they get relegated.

Bit harsh.

I agree with him, you're a shite side who we struggle to beat. I do recognise it's sour grapes but I just hate knowing playing you is coming up and what we'll have to be subjected to.

We're obviously not shite, otherwise you'd be beating us consistently and comfortably.

Unless you are saying you are shyte?

And I think you are a decent side.

I'd go for a quality striker in Jan if I was Houllier.

Can you tell those that make decisions, we've been saying it till we're hoarse mate.

Maybe advice from a Stoke fan will add something ?

Maybe not though, we haven't got a Manager in place yet !

Pullis made the difference last night - your players played their hearts out for him while ours forgot that a game isn't finished until the final whistle is blown and that giving needlsess fee kicks away to Stoke ( and thow ins in the last quarter) are just playing into their hands.

Ha ha :-)

Gabby is a very decent player, as is Carew. Heskey is a bit crap though.

I think Kenwyne Jones or Riccy Fuller would thrive off your service.

[Merv]

I've no problem with Stoke at all. They're a decent side, building up a good squad there. I really like Shawcross, and I've rated Etherington for a while now. Like a few on here, when I saw Fuller coming on, my heart sank. He really did give our defenders a tough time - he's a biggish guy but it's his footwork and movement that causes the problems.

But let's just clarify: Reo-Coker offers 'nothing' in the centre of midfield? Really? Let's see.... with a winger each side of him (Albrighton and Downing), what do you think his role in the side might be? A free, attacking one? Or a role based on winning tackles, doing the hard work? He had a good game last night. And, despite his job, he was still the player breaking forward towards the end - busting a gut to close down Sorenson (made the tackle, ball rebounded over the bar) and unlucky with a late shot that was well placed but deflected wide, could have been the winner.

For me, he's been one of our better/best players so far this season and is one of the guys really out to prove he's got a future at the club. Let's not be knocking him.

[whydelilah]

Lost the game in the first have when Ashley realised that he had to head the ball, from that moment you knew what was coming. Petrov can fuck off to wherever o'neill heads to next, he's had one decent season so far, his passing abilty ranged from collins to dunne. Pennant is a cheating little shit - but we blame ourselves for a fearful display...

Might sound like sour grapes but anyone that went dissapointed with the stoke support? Built up before the game to be this intimidating amazing atmosphere place, barely sang all game, veryy dissapointed!

It has dropped off since the first season in The Prem.

We still make a fair ole' noise at times but no where near as consistently as 2 years ago.

[Lambert and Payne]

Lost the game in the first have when Ashley realised that he had to head the ball, from that moment you knew what was coming. Petrov can fuck off to wherever o'neill heads to next, he's had one decent season so far, his passing abilty ranged from collins to dunne. Pennant is a cheating little shit - but we blame ourselves for a fearful display...

Might sound like sour grapes but anyone that went dissapointed with the stoke support? Built up before the game to be this intimidating amazing atmosphere place, barely sang all game, veryy dissapointed!

It has dropped off since the first season in The Prem.

We still make a fair ole' noise at times but no where near as consistently as 2 years ago.

It was one of the reasons to go, follow villa first but really wanted that one intimidating place to go to, when the whole ground sung Delilah it was bloody loud, but only happened twice and thats all you could really hear. What a bastard to get in too, gridlocked mway, no pubs for away fans and i diddnt really like the ground, lacked character i think :/. Ill go again next time - hope its better atmo and result! lol

[Small Rodent]

There was a lot of stupid play that from our defence which put us under pressure from freekicks. If kebwyne Jones has his back to the goal 20 yards from the penalty area, there is no need to go piling in to the back of him to win the ball.

[whydelilah]

Lost the game in the first have when Ashley realised that he had to head the ball, from that moment you knew what was coming. Petrov can fuck off to wherever o'neill heads to next, he's had one decent season so far, his passing abilty ranged from collins to dunne. Pennant is a cheating little shit - but we blame ourselves for a fearful display...

Might sound like sour grapes but anyone that went dissapointed with the stoke support? Built up before the game to be this intimidating amazing atmosphere place, barely sang all game, veryy dissapointed!

It has dropped off since the first season in The Prem.

We still make a fair ole' noise at times but no where near as consistently as 2 years ago.

It was one of the reasons to go, follow villa first but really wanted that one intimidating place to go to, when the whole ground sung Delilah it was bloody loud, but only happened twice and thats all you could really hear. What a bastard to get in too, gridlocked mway, no pubs for away fans and i diddnt really like the ground, lacked character i think :/. Ill go again next time - hope its better atmo and result! lol

Last night wasn't great but I didn't really expect it too. Monday night football is always a bit flat. I don't know if that is reflected throughout The Prem but it is certainly true at The Brit.

I expect it to be much louder and a better atmosphere on Saturday.

[peter w]

Really couldn't care less if is better on Saturday and I really couldn't care less how you do then, or for the rest of the season. Stay up, go down, whatever. You're just another club.

What's a pain in the arse is that you're here now. This is our funeral and no time for you to give us the Reverend Lovejoy pat on the back saying, 'there, there'.

[Mazrim]

Well that was a bit hard to take. Oh well.
No problem with their fans but Stoke are a horrible football team and gifting them their first points of the season is a bit annoying considering it should have been all over at half time.

Frustratingly predictable.

[whydelilah]

Really couldn't care less if is better on Saturday and I really couldn't care less how you do then, or for the rest of the season. Stay up, go down, whatever. You're just another club.

What's a pain in the arse is that you're here now. This is our funeral and no time for you to give us the Reverend Lovejoy pat on the back saying, 'there, there'.

Fair play.

Adios.

[Lambert and Payne]

Lost the game in the first have when Ashley realised that he had to head the ball, from that moment you knew what was coming. Petrov can fuck off to wherever o'neill heads to next, he's had one decent season so far, his passing abilty ranged from collins to dunne. Pennant is a cheating little shit - but we blame ourselves for a fearful display...

Might sound like sour grapes but anyone that went dissapointed with the stoke support? Built up before the game to be this intimidating amazing atmosphere place, barely sang all game, veryy dissapointed!

It has dropped off since the first season in The Prem.

We still make a fair ole' noise at times but no where near as consistently as 2 years ago.

It was one of the reasons to go, follow villa first but really wanted that one intimidating place to go to, when the whole ground sung Delilah it was bloody loud, but only happened twice and thats all you could really hear. What a bastard to get in too, gridlocked mway, no pubs for away fans and i diddnt really like the ground, lacked character i think :/. Ill go again next time - hope its better atmo and result! lol

Last night wasn't great but I didn't really expect it too. Monday night football is always a bit flat. I don't know if that is reflected throughout The Prem but it is certainly true at The Brit.

I expect it to be much louder and a better atmosphere on Saturday.

Wasnt just Stoke fans, Villa were loud when they sang but wasnt enough, but yeah monday isnt the best time for a game. Is it always full of idiots shouting over the fence at the away fans after the game when fans are locked in?

[Monty]

Well that was a bit hard to take. Oh well.
No problem with their fans but Stoke are a horrible football team and gifting them their first points of the season is a bit annoying considering it should have been all over at half time.

Frustratingly predictable.

The most annoying thing is the way we lost. If a team with top 6 aims loses to a long ball team it can only be their own fault, because long ball is a strategy with just about the most obvious ways to combat it, and yet we couldn't do that. Pretty depressing.

[sfx412]

Peter, agree on the centre midfield, NRC offered nothing, Petrov just wasn't in the game. I think Collins was poor, he missed a few last night and hoofed at every chance. IMO I'd like Cuellar back in there with Dunne.

NRC offered nothing ??

I just don't believe you saw the same game as most people.
Petrov was fine until the second half, but then so was Albrighton, Young and Downing. Coker remained our best player throughout, and if you can't see it, its a real pity as a Villa fan.

[Lee]

I'm still scratching my head as to how we lost that.
I fucking hate Stoke and I hope they get relegated.

Bit harsh.

I agree with him, you're a shite side who we struggle to beat. I do recognise it's sour grapes but I just hate knowing playing you is coming up and what we'll have to be subjected to.

We're obviously not shite, otherwise you'd be beating us consistently and comfortably.

Unless you are saying you are shyte?

And I think you are a decent side.

I'd go for a quality striker in Jan if I was Houllier.

The major difference last night in the forward line.

We don't have strikers that are consistent at the club to that kind of level imo. Even if "The Messiah" had stayed, I still wouldn't have trusted him to get anyone in. He didn't really do it in the 4 years he was here.

Just shows that relative Premiership Newbies in Stoke have a forward line that can boast Jones, Fuller and even Gudjohnsen. We on the other hand only had Heskey.

[Ads]

Woeful concentration and marking made the difference last night. Along with some real profligacy in front of goal and a cheating Bluenosed c*** who wants to fuck off back to Wormwood the horrible little ball bag.

[luke25]

when was the last time we scored an injury time winner? Im seriously struggling to think off the top of my head

<bing bong> Legion to the Post match thread, Legion to the Post match thread </bing bong>

Yeah, come on Legion, we need a bit of cheering up.  I don't think I'll ever tire of you posting that clip.

how could I possibly forget, two things running through my head now, firstly the joy that goal still brings me and secondly that means we've gone two years without scoring an injury time winner