Stoke City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[john2710]

That was a million times better performance than the effort they put in against Newcastle but from some of the comments on here you'd think we lost 6-0 tonight.

We do, however, have an uncanny knack of being able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. But after watching the Villa for as long as I have it shouldn't come as any surprise.

[pauliewalnuts]

I know Mon is taking a lot of the blame but at least he could motivate them, if he was manager would we have lost today? Im starting to wonder??

No way would we have fallen foul of a late sucker punch against Stoke under MON.

[usav]

I know Mon is taking a lot of the blame but at least he could motivate them, if he was manager would we have lost today? Im starting to wonder??

So who was in charge last time we lost there in the last minute?

[TheBarneyArmy]

Why did the twat of a ref give the cheating fuck Pennant a free kick.
Why Heskey coming on as sub.
Why can't Ash head the ball.
Why Heskey trying to defend.
Why did I say to myself that they looked nothing like a threat compared to Everton.
Why Heskey trying to kick a ball.
Dunne too overweight, Warnock not good enough, Friedal just has to be replaced.
We are a shambles at the moment, no manager, no replica kit, no signings, no idea.
I've got a lot of time for Randy, but he really must get a grip of the situation we are in and sort it out now.
Grrr.

On a plus note Downing is starting to look something like a Villa player.

[john2710]

I know Mon is taking a lot of the blame but at least he could motivate them, if he was manager would we have lost today? Im starting to wonder??

So who was in charge last time we lost there in the last minute?

West Ham last year??

[Legion]

Not long got back. Gutted. Should have been out of sight by half time. The usual onslaught in the last part of the game and we capitulated yet again. I'll post something more constructive later.

[TopDeck113]

same shit different season why when were on sky do we concede so many late goals fucking sick of it now as is someone else I imagine ....

Apparently that was the first away Monday night game we've lost since Enkelman's moment of madness (8 years on Friday if you want to mark the anniversary).

[villa `cross the mersey]

The unfortunate thing is that, with Pulis turning up tonight after his mother had died, it casts the club's pissing around with Houllier and his previous appointments in stark relief.

They've asked for it, to be honest, though.

The press conference was badly handled. It was rank amateurism to have it come out, in drips and drabs, that he couldnt start today, he wouldn't be in the dugout for Bolton, he might be here for Wolves, but he couldn't guarantee that, he could be forced to work three months notice, and even then he might have to go back for the odd day.

And all this at a press conference to announce the appointment of a manager who hadn't actually signed a contract.

I think the board get a lot of unfair stick on certain issues, but it is hard to see the managerial appointment process as anything but a bit of a mess, and the worrying thing is it doesn't even seem to be over.

  As I stated elswhere we would have been better off appointing Brian Rix

 

[Phil from the upper holte]

Mon wasn't perfect, I wasn't even a fan of his but now he's gone were not lookin much better are we?

What did Warnock say, "were being told to go out and win rather than not lose" well when your 1-0 up, if you can't win then don't lose, Midfield was getting overrun everyone could see that!

Just feel really fucked off

[PeterWithesShin]

I know Mon is taking a lot of the blame but at least he could motivate them, if he was manager would we have lost today? Im starting to wonder??

Didn't Stoke score late goals when MON was in charge? Twice.

[PeterWithe]

Very, very predictable. We looked extremely comfortable for most of the game until the goal went in, then it was same old Villa, the other team simply wanted the points more than we did.

A lack of leadership both on and off the field that doesn't look like ending anytime soon.

Close down Etherington quickly and stop giving away silly fouls and throw ins and Stoke have fuck all, the fact our record against them is so poor is simply down to the fact that their desire for the result is greater than ours.

[Somniloquism]

Why did the twat of a ref give the cheating fuck Pennant a free kick.
Why Heskey coming on as sub.
Why can't Ash head the ball.
Why Heskey trying to defend.
Why did I say to myself that they looked nothing like a threat compared to Everton.
Why Heskey trying to kick a ball.
Dunne too overweight, Warnock not good enough, Friedal just has to be replaced.
We are a shambles at the moment, no manager, no replica kit, no signings, no idea.
I've got a lot of time for Randy, but he really must get a grip of the situation we are in and sort it out now.
Grrr.

On a plus note Downing is starting to look something like a Villa player.

Friedal did nothing wrong today (apart from some Goal kicks but that has been an issue at Villa since Bosnich was around) and without some of his saves we could have been well beaten. He had no chance we either goal.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

The unfortunate thing is that, with Pulis turning up tonight after his mother had died, it casts the club's pissing around with Houllier and his previous appointments in stark relief.

They've asked for it, to be honest, though.

The press conference was badly handled. It was rank amateurism to have it come out, in drips and drabs, that he couldnt start today, he wouldn't be in the dugout for Bolton, he might be here for Wolves, but he couldn't guarantee that, he could be forced to work three months notice, and even then he might have to go back for the odd day.

And all this at a press conference to announce the appointment of a manager who hadn't actually signed a contract.

I think the board get a lot of unfair stick on certain issues, but it is hard to see the managerial appointment process as anything but a bit of a mess, and the worrying thing is it doesn't even seem to be over.

The communication of the terms of his appointment were poorly presented. It did need explaining at the beginning of the press conference but to blame the board for that seems a bit harsh. They've got their man, they will have to wait but hopefully he'll be worth waiting for. Saying that, they employee our Head of Communication, whoever he is but realistically, given the time involved, it appeared he hasn't got a clue. Apart from a few prompter notes about our history and how wonderful the fans are, it was very amatuerish. It was like, here you are Gerard, a few key pointers about the club and the press are in there waiting for you.

A bit like the tactics during the last four years - a few notes scribbled on the bag of a fag packet from John Robertson. Houllier must be delighted, after watching tonight's performance, the fans will think he's a genius for getting us organised, when it's nothing more than any decent manager should know to to do.

[TheSandman]

Stoke should be banned from the Premier League.

For showing us how inept a lot of our players are?  Then i think a few teams will have cause to be banned from the league come the end of the season.

It is absolutely no secret how Stoke play, yet we seemed all too happy to accommodate them in the second half.

They're a disgusting, cheating team with racist fans. Hopefully they're not allowed to be dirty and cheat in future which will mean only one thing for them - relegation.

Our players were not inept, we defended really well against the only thing they can do which is long throw ins and long balls into the box; a dive and cheating won the game for those BNP lovers.

Bit harsh on their fans there. You can't prove any racism. Was there any racist chanting of our black players? No. They use what they have to win games. Delap's throws are a good weapon but they also have some talented players. They are a robust team but I wish we were that too. We have players in our team who can't put in a decent firm tackle. And besides when compared to Bolton, Wolves, Sunderland and numerous others they are not particularly dirty. Any cretin could tell you Stoke's game plan which we did nothing to defend.

They did show our ineptitude. We were poor in front of goal and we didn't defend well enough. Our manager or rather the bloke who is filling in made no effort to change things that even most of the people on this forum would have done. 

[vilan461]

Why did the twat of a ref give the cheating fuck Pennant a free kick.
Why Heskey coming on as sub.
Why can't Ash head the ball.
Why Heskey trying to defend.
Why did I say to myself that they looked nothing like a threat compared to Everton.
Why Heskey trying to kick a ball.
Dunne too overweight, Warnock not good enough, Friedal just has to be replaced.
We are a shambles at the moment, no manager, no replica kit, no signings, no idea.
I've got a lot of time for Randy, but he really must get a grip of the situation we are in and sort it out now.
Grrr.

On a plus note Downing is starting to look something like a Villa player.

Total 101% agreement,----too frustrated,angry,disappointed to say anymore except why oh why was Heskey brought on after 88mins that to me signalled we had thrown the proverbial towel in!!!!!