Why the long faces about Houllier?

[john e]

Wether it's Houllier or not, this appointment has to be the most dithering in the history of football, even I am bored with it now so god knows what everybody else in football thinks.

they wont give it a second thought, its nothing that concerns them much is it,
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I am not sure being recently involved with the French team is anything you want to put on your C.V.

You know, with everything else going on I had forgotten all about that!  So he was involved when the cheese-eating juggler decided rules don't apply to him? 

I'm with pmk1981 now - fuck him and the onion covered bicycle he rode in on. 

If you want to get banned, keep it up.

I'll take this as proof that trying to write in a sarcastic/mocking tone of voice really doesn't work on the internet!

Not really, no.

Dave , you really are a miseryarse lately

[KevinGage]

1) Both signed Heskey at very different stages of their careers. Houllier's signing of Heskey to play alongside Owen was a very good decision. That as I pointed out, fell apart as soon as Owen left. Heskey since then hasn't played with a player of Owen's movement and quality. Again not defending Heskey's entire body of work, but that is important to point out. He needs a great player like Owen or Rooney to be productive.

2) We were crap to watch at home, and for the most part great away. We weren't always crap to watch under MON. That's a myth. Houllier is defensive in his philosophy first and foremost. So is Mourinho. You can win things being conservative which is the most important thing. I'm not going to pretend we're getting Wenger football any time soon.

3) All managers sign good players, crap players, ones that turn out great and ones that were great at the time and turn out shit. Cisse turned to be in the final version. Highly thought of at the time, young, fast and dynamic. He turned out to be a complete nut. How do you really know (insert Sasa Curcic story here)

I'm not entirely in disagreement with you.  I was just using some of the common anti-MON arguments I see (and not saying they are yours) and seeing how I'd expect Houllier to measure up against them.  As for point 2, I've never really had an issue with style of play, other than needing to break teams down at home more often.

You think he'll do better than Martin and I don't.  I have no problem with that and hope and we see how things develop you're proven right.

I don't know if he'll do better than MON from a league position standpoint. Obviously we all hope he is, but a lot of factors will influence that. One will certainly be money. One thing is I hope we can be more savvy in the broader transfer market, and that going that route allows us acquire more technically gifted players. I want Houllier's tenure to push us on to the point where we can win the League Cup final as opposed to just getting there and running out of ideas. Or that we do well in Europe. I think Hodgson showed how having an understanding of European football allowed him to prepare Fulham better. I think we have been quite naive under MON in that regard.

Importantly, I want his time here to put in place some new ideas that will benefit us for many years to come.

I'm not hugely enthusiastic about this appointment truth be told, nor the imminent arrival of Pinnochio.

But I hope what you suggest there turns out to be true.

[Malandro]

Despite the trophies he won at pool, they never really came close to winning the league and I'm afraid they did have the resources at the time to do it.

Having said that, if he's appointed, I'll enjoy the ride.

Do you mean apart from the time they finished runners up?

Oops did they?! I'm told! I really can't remember that, oh well!

[dave.woodhall]

Dave , you really are a miseryarse lately

Oh dear, I am sorry to have incurred your displeasure once more. Whatever can I do to make amends?

[jembob]

Wether it's Houllier or not, this appointment has to be the most dithering in the history of football, even I am bored with it now so god knows what everybody else in football thinks.

I'm interested to know how people have reached the conclusion that the board have dithered over this appointment. I can't think of any reason why anybody would have wanted this appointment to drag on as long as it has but we just don't have enough information to decide that it's been due to procrastination. Sadly the lack of information coming out of VP provides an opportunity for people to think the worst despite the fact that the board has done virtually everything right over the past 4 years or so. I would prefer to think that they have taken the time to properly judge the situation and to make the best decision possible in very difficult circumstances.

[john e]

Dave , you really are a miseryarse lately

Oh dear, I am sorry to have incurred your displeasure once more. Whatever can I do to make amends?

your just acting like a big twat now, dont know whats the matter with you

[Matt C]

The voice of reason from Phil McNulty at the BBC: http://bbc.in/9gd2XE

[dave.woodhall]

Dave , you really are a miseryarse lately

Oh dear, I am sorry to have incurred your displeasure once more. Whatever can I do to make amends?

your just acting like a big twat now, dont know whats the matter with you

"acting like a big twat" = saying something you disagree with. How dare I.

[john e]

Dave , you really are a miseryarse lately

Oh dear, I am sorry to have incurred your displeasure once more. Whatever can I do to make amends?

your just acting like a big twat now, dont know whats the matter with you

"acting like a big twat" = saying something you disagree with. How dare I.

Whatever

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I can sense some sexual tension in this thread, so I’ll pop back later. 

[citizenDJ]

The voice of reason from Phil McNulty at the BBC: http://bbc.in/9gd2XE

Good write up that, which broadly sums up my own expectations. I know a fair few people are, er, underwhelmed, but I am really looking forward to seeing how we get on under Houllier.

[TheSandman]

I can sense some sexual tension in this thread, so I’ll pop back later. 

I'm trying to work out if everyone is joking or not!

[villa74]

Does anyone else get the feeling that pmk1981 is either a 'blunose' or a journo just on here to try to create a situation that doesn't exist?

[Toronto Villa]

Does anyone else get the feeling that pmk1981 is either a 'blunose' or a journo just on here to try to create a situation that doesn't exist?

I don't know about that. But I do think he is being very unfair, or extremely unreasonable. It's almost personal which isn't warranted. Houllier has never had a bad word to say about Villa so why the need for such vitriol? As for Phil Thompson, ok so he's not said anything glowing about us, but that's his remit as a TV pundit. He won't be like that in a professional capacity while employed by us.

[Reality]

The voice of reason from Phil McNulty at the BBC: http://bbc.in/9gd2XE

I have a lot of time for Phil McNulty. Always comes across as a decent, sensible bloke and I fully agree with his assessment.