Aston Villa v Rapid Vienna Post-Match Thread

[deanl123]

I said after the West Ham game, that we can't have a manager that is liked by the players. They have to respect and fear the manager, and KMac's just too nice.

It worried me when Petrov said that he didn't shout or moan after the Newcastle game, just calmly told them where he thought they'd gone wrong.

Well now would be a good time for a long and loud MON style rant.

KMac's a nice guy and we should thank him for taking the reins in an emergency, but now we need a new Manager to steady the ship and deliver a nice, safe mid-table finish, before re-building for next season.

[The Situation]

Again, it's costly mistakes which see's us out of Europe... not necessarily us playing 'shit' so to say. Rapid were awful first-half and we deserved our lead; second-half we rode our luck a little in missing vital chances, I said to myself after the penalty miss "fate always is right, Rapid are gonna punish us for not taking our chances", indeed that did happen. I have no idea what is happening to our defence, it was the 3rd best in the league last season, what a contrast it is and we're already 3 games into the new season.

Ah well, I doubt we'd have taken the competition seriously anyway to be honest and tonight has shown Macdonald isn't the right man to be manager. One thing I will say though is that Everton and spurs iin recent years have had very poor starts to the season and they've turned it around so I think we should keep the faith!

[AVFCRob]

Listen, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose but the sheer bloody incompetence out there tonight was breathtaking. It was like watching the England performance against Germany where you are shaking your head at the madness of it. People were making mistakes that they wouldn't have made when they were eight years old, it was totally bizarre....and yet, weirdly predictable.

Vienna must be lauging their collective bollocks' off.

[mr woo]

Curtis Davies - MON must be laughing his socks off, your moaning about not have a fair chance under MON

He was poor I agree. But it was MON who thought he was worth 8 million quid.

[nick harper]

Anybody any idea what formation we were playing today. Three midfield players with none playing a holding role. No width from a side that has played with wide players for the last four years. The side lacked discipline and organisation and that sadly is down to the manager. May of course end up being a blessing if it wakes the board up.

[Phil from the upper holte]

A right back at left back
A centre back at right back
Heskey in the B6 post code, let alone on the pitch
Absolutely zero threat up front. Zero.
One of the worst centre halves I've seen in decades.
No manager
No signings
Chairman "waiting till after the Everton game" to offer KM the first interview BEFORE interviewing other people.

This club is an absolute fucking shambles right now. If we are going to stop being a shambles, Lerner MUST act very, very soon.

You've said it all for me mate.

Im furious, Im at my Girlfriends mothers her sister started laughing I had to go for a walk to calm down or risk a spot of bother. Heskey really is a fucking donkey. How the fuck did he miss that re-bound? (im not letting Petrov off either) What a shit fucking pen in the first place.

I really hoped that there WERE players in Beye, Davies, NRC but there just isnt, Fucking woeful the lot of them. O'neill has a lot to answer for!!!

How long till Ash asks for a transfer?

[Fin Feds Dad]

A disgrace - on the back of a 6 - 0 rinsing by a championship side.

The biggest disgrace was the body language of the 11 players on the pitch - they looked like they couldnt give a flying fuck.

Not been this annoyed for a very long time.

We have been riding the crest of the optimism of a new owner and MON.

Thats long gone now - I am very worried.

[BILL DE VALL]

To play in europe year in year out you need 2 of everything-at least
Playing Beye at left back was as bad a decision as MON ever used to make
Beye can only play right back yet we play a centre back there

3 mistakes
3 goals

[sfx412]

Struggled to get 2-1 up and all that experience went out of the window. No discipline, few ideas, no one taking responsibility and major basic errors from supposedly professional and experienced players.
They played like a load of kids, perhaps that reflects their manager.
The tie was lost in the away leg, we gave them too little respect, tonight even when down they had the bottle to come back and wipe the floor with us again.

[mr woo]

And anyone see Man City's bench tonight?

They put their 'rested' players on the bench. In case of emergency I assume?

So where were Carew, Downing, Sidwell etc?

If injured fair do's. If not, another inexperienced managers mistake.

[deanl123]

Curtis Davies - MON must be laughing his socks off, your moaning about not have a fair chance under MON

He was poor I agree. But it was MON who thought he was worth 8 million quid.

To be fair, there were very few Villa fans disagreeing at the time.

[saunders_heroes]

Why so many changes when O'Neill got so much stick for doing the same in previous Uefa Cup outings? McDonald could have picked the complete first team, gone through, then reap the praise from fans who hated O'Neill's policy of playing second string players in Europe.
It just shows how naive and clueless McDonald is, and the scary thing is, is that he's the so called favourite for the job.

God help us!!

[StMalachy]

Well thats it... ive seen enough ....my experience of KMcD is as no 2 to steve staunton during a wreckless ! 2 years with ireland..... and i watched dunney play like paul mcshane only worse....... it was awful stuff and stevie irelands daft carry on only added to the madness.
Im still a fully committed ( yes im writing from my hospital bed hahahaha...) MON fan.  Randy and the general are learning the hard way.  Its worse than 'Nam General, its goin to be a bloodbath...but im sure youll get the last chopper..you guys always do. No amount of soft soap on this site will appease these commie bastards.
Seriously though ! all the MON knockers or those who sat on the fence ( a fair number of this sites contributors ) all last year have to take their share of the blame. You'd want to be stupid to keep bursting a gut to make the top 4 with such a thankless and short-sighted bunch of "fans". And MON is not stupid.
Yanks cannot grasp the idea of a football club, certainly not in the sense that it means to people in Britain and ireland
Why is a city of several millions so unsuccessful in the last 25 years - why are the fans so gloomy - im following villa for 25 years and last season was give or take the most satisfying - OK so after years of Dougs profit taking - every year a dividend for shareholders - we spent a bit of cash - signed a few ringers - overpaid a few dopes -
Money saved is a false positive -  consumer confidence is vital - were on the ropes - it will take more than Jol or some other chancer to get it back.

St Malachys last post ( until MON returns that is ) 
Goodbye all - its been interesting ... not !

I ll try villatalk - its got to be better    ( trialist my arse ! )

You can say fuck off and good riddance if you like -  I wont be reading it - no offence taken (or given)

[achilles]

Again managers just do not learn!
Why play players out of position… why?
Beye has never played left-back, Carlos does not want to play right-back, Reo has been tried right-midfield before and it didn’t work. Yet another defensive pairing of Collins and Davies, never played together before (I don’t think), where was Albrighton actually playing?
The thing is its not all doom and gloom, just play players in their proper positions, it really isn’t rocket science.

--------------------------------------------------Friedal-----------------------------------------------------------
Luke Young-----------------Collins-----------------------Dunne----------------------------------Warnock
---------------------------------Reo---------------------------Petrov---------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------Ireland-------------------------------------------------------------
Albrighton------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Young
-----------------------------------------------Gabby (Delf)-------------------------------------------------------

Personally I think that side is more than good enough but unfortunately it will never happen because I am just a Villa fan and obviously knows absolutely nothing about football.

By the way sorry KMac you haven’t got a clue!

[saunders_heroes]

And anyone see Man City's bench tonight?

They put their 'rested' players on the bench. In case of emergency I assume?

So where were Carew, Downing, Sidwell etc?

If injured fair do's. If not, another inexperienced managers mistake.

And Delfounso didn't come on till it was too late, when he should have replaced Gabby on 30 minutes.
Absolutely farcical. If this man gets the job we're fucked.