Aston Villa v Rapid Vienna Post-Match Thread

[TheTimVilla]

i only saw bits of it due to a shit stream but I see Davies is getting much of the blame.  I can only say the first Rapid goal was down to Beye giving it away, Cuellar losing the aerial battle and Guzan being beaten on his near post.  And the second was mostly down to Guzan's fuck up.  I've been saying for ages we need a keeper as Friedel is a has-been and Guzan is a never will be.  Neither are an improvement on Sorensen and Guzan is as bad as Carson if not worse. 

Petrov's penalty was scandalously bad, neither power or placement - a repeat of Ash's against the same opposition last year.  Is it too much to ask for a professional footballer to be able to find the corner and at least make the keeper work? 

I feel a bit for KM as he has taken over just as we have more injuries than I can ever remember under O'Neill and some of the selections were forced on him.  However he does look tactically and motivationally out of his depth and we need a new manager pronto.

When you say Cuellar losing the aerial battle, that's right back Cuellar filling in because Davies had gone awol.

Agree about Stan & his penner, though.

[levico]

I think the 5 year plan finishes in the Championship. I honestly don't think we'll see European football at VP again for quite some time. We are in serious decline!!!

[ktvillan]

i only saw bits of it due to a shit stream but I see Davies is getting much of the blame.  I can only say the first Rapid goal was down to Beye giving it away, Cuellar losing the aerial battle and Guzan being beaten on his near post.  And the second was mostly down to Guzan's fuck up.

So you didn't see how the corner they scored from came about? Davies is a yard from the side line hoofs the ball out for a corner over the top of our own crossbar. If it wasn't a corner then it wouldn't have been a goal.

No I didn't see it,  as I said I had a dodgy stream that stopped after the second equalizer. So he gave a corner away.  The absolute ******.  Should we shoot him do you reckon? 

[Beijing Villan]

And breathe......

Things we've learned after 3 games.

Negatives

KMac - may not be the one.
Guzan - may not be our future #1.
Beye - poor when played out of position.
Davies - needs to shape up or ship out.
Heskey - the past, not the future; ship out.

Positives

Albrighton - a future star. Needs careful management this season.
NRC - can do a job as holding midfield player.
Gabby - our most potent threat up front.

Question marks

Penalty takers.
Replacement CF to keep Carew & Gabby on their toes.
A Young - dead ball specialist but needs competition otherwise he will take everyone even when off form like tonight.

[TheSandman]

I really don't understand the Heskey hatred. He scored a goal, great reactions but people just concentrate on a snapshot reaction to a very poor penalty. I thought he played well tonight, held the ball well, won some free kicks in good positions.

Ireland had a great first hour, not one misplaced pass, very inventive. Disappeared badly though.

Davies was fucking shite, mind.

Heskey was our best player tonight. Sadly, he was playing his career in a microcosm. So good with headers, crossing, passing and winning free kicks but utterly inept in front of goal.

[mr woo]

A right back at left back
A centre back at right back
Heskey in the B6 post code, let alone on the pitch
Absolutely zero threat up front. Zero.
One of the worst centre halves I've seen in decades.
No manager
No signings
Chairman "waiting till after the Everton game" to offer KM the first interview BEFORE interviewing other people.

This club is an absolute fucking shambles right now. If we are going to stop being a shambles, Lerner MUST act very, very soon.

You saved me some typing Paulie.

Except to say this....

 Step 1 - Take a manager who is poor tactically but a brilliant and unparalelled motivator.
 Step 2 - Give him 4 years. You now have players who are motivated but poorly organised.
 Step 3 - Take manager away.


What have you got??

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I really don't understand the Heskey hatred. He scored a goal, great reactions but people just concentrate on a snapshot reaction to a very poor penalty. I thought he played well tonight, held the ball well, won some free kicks in good positions.

I hope there are a few managers around that agree with you, as apart from the defeat, the worst thing about tonight is we're going to be stuck with all the fucking deadwood, as no fucker in his right mind would sign them, never mind pay them what they'd be looking for. FFS, we couldn't even raffle them.

Bollocks.

[toplad4u]

Watching KMac on the touch line not shouting at players and speaking to them shows he's out of his depth. I really think we could of done better with words of encouragement from the touchline specially after the equiliser. I was really up for KMac being manager I hope he still becomes assitant manger to a big name as he deserves a promotion and it might help the new manager settle in but definetly not the manager full-time yet as he's gota few things left to learn.

[TheSandman]

i only saw bits of it due to a shit stream but I see Davies is getting much of the blame.  I can only say the first Rapid goal was down to Beye giving it away, Cuellar losing the aerial battle and Guzan being beaten on his near post.  And the second was mostly down to Guzan's fuck up.

So you didn't see how the corner they scored from came about? Davies is a yard from the side line hoofs the ball out for a corner over the top of our own crossbar. If it wasn't a corner then it wouldn't have been a goal.

No I didn't see it,  as I said I had a dodgy stream that stopped after the second equalizer. So he gave a corner away.  The absolute c***.  Should we shoot him do you reckon? 

Yes. He was abysmal. Again.

[Walmley_Villa]

Give away millions of pounds of assets. Genius.

Current Liabilities on and off the pitch!

[TheTimVilla]

I really don't understand the Heskey hatred. He scored a goal, great reactions but people just concentrate on a snapshot reaction to a very poor penalty. I thought he played well tonight, held the ball well, won some free kicks in good positions.

Ireland had a great first hour, not one misplaced pass, very inventive. Disappeared badly though.

Davies was fucking shite, mind.

Heskey was our best player tonight. Sadly, he was playing his career in a microcosm. So good with headers, crossing, passing and winning free kicks but utterly inept in front of goal.

Errrm, you know he scored?

[ktvillan]

i only saw bits of it due to a shit stream but I see Davies is getting much of the blame.  I can only say the first Rapid goal was down to Beye giving it away, Cuellar losing the aerial battle and Guzan being beaten on his near post.  And the second was mostly down to Guzan's fuck up.  I've been saying for ages we need a keeper as Friedel is a has-been and Guzan is a never will be.  Neither are an improvement on Sorensen and Guzan is as bad as Carson if not worse. 

Petrov's penalty was scandalously bad, neither power or placement - a repeat of Ash's against the same opposition last year.  Is it too much to ask for a professional footballer to be able to find the corner and at least make the keeper work? 

I feel a bit for KM as he has taken over just as we have more injuries than I can ever remember under O'Neill and some of the selections were forced on him.  However he does look tactically and motivationally out of his depth and we need a new manager pronto.

When you say Cuellar losing the aerial battle, that's right back Cuellar filling in because Davies had gone awol.

Agree about Stan & his penner, though.

Cuellar was marking, or at least closest to,  the scorer.  He is meant to be a good CB, even if he was at RB tonight.  But I suppose it was Davies' fault that he was beaten rather too easily. 

[Apyadg]

I think the 5 year plan finishes in the Championship. I honestly don't think we'll see European football at VP again for quite some time. We are in serious decline!!!

Serious decline? Have you people heard yourselves.

Ok, we took a hammering versus Newcastle, and we lost tonight. Tonight doesn't count as 'decline' as we exit the tournament in the same round against the same team we did last year.

So your basis of our 'serious decline' is one thrashing with a caretaker manager. I know there's going to be some overreaction after a loss, but some of you are bloody mental.

[AVFCRob]

Ah, does Petrov's comment about the lack of a managerial appointment affecting the team explain his one step penalty and his subsequent 'nice height for a goalie' penalty kick? The lack of a full-time manager must explain his shocking penalty, mustn't it? Perhaps, personal responsibility for your performance might have a bearing too, eh, Stilyan?

[Smithy]

i only saw bits of it due to a shit stream but I see Davies is getting much of the blame.  I can only say the first Rapid goal was down to Beye giving it away, Cuellar losing the aerial battle and Guzan being beaten on his near post.  And the second was mostly down to Guzan's fuck up.

So you didn't see how the corner they scored from came about? Davies is a yard from the side line hoofs the ball out for a corner over the top of our own crossbar. If it wasn't a corner then it wouldn't have been a goal.

No I didn't see it,  as I said I had a dodgy stream that stopped after the second equalizer. So he gave a corner away.  The absolute c***.  Should we shoot him do you reckon? 

I think you really need to see it, to understand it wasn't just "giving away a corner" - which obviously happens a few times in every game.  He could have rolled it in to touch quite easily, but chose to be 'clever' and turned back towards his own goal and fired the ball over our cross bar whilst trying to 'clip' the ball against their player.

Absolutely SHOCKING defending from a professional.