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Offline ozzjim

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1230 on: August 27, 2014, 12:24:25 AM »
I think NZogbia has shown enough in the opening couple of games that he still carries a threat. Gabby I agree, he is shot and should be allowed to leave when his contract expires next summer, as will Bent.

3 young, vibrant, pacey forward options in for those 3 would be welcome!

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1231 on: November 04, 2014, 01:18:18 AM »
Thought he was really good yesterday.  The finish for the goal was decent and he worked hard all afternoon.  It was also good to see his frustration on the bench when we lost the last goal.  You could tell that he really cared.  I'm still a pretty big fan and think he brings other things to the team besides goals (and your joke go there!).

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1232 on: November 04, 2014, 02:27:14 AM »
Pretty obvious that Weiman is a striker and not an auxiliary midfielder.

So if he is played it should be as a striker.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1233 on: November 04, 2014, 12:09:02 PM »
We keep playing with 3 bloody strikers and nobody that can supply them with anything.

They are finishers too, rather than the types that will create for themselves, which means playing three is a luxury we can ill-afford given the rest of the dross we serve up.

Given that we can't defend without our new first choice back-line all playing, it weakens us still further.

I like Weimann, but he's just no good in the position he keeps being asked to play in.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1234 on: November 05, 2014, 12:37:26 AM »
His best form for us was as part of that front three with Gabby and Benteke the season before last.  He is a player who can float about a bit, but I do agree that he is most effective up front.  With CB out for three games now I would play him either along side Gabby or up front on his own if we go that way.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1235 on: November 05, 2014, 09:57:16 AM »
He works his bollocks off. I think at times he's been run into the ground under Lambert and has needed a rest here and there, or to come off in games, but didn't get it.
I also think that he looks slimmer than he did last season. He looks fitter, so fair play to him because a few of his teammates don't look in peak condition.

For me, Andi has to play up front. He can finish when he gets it in the box. He's better off the ball than he is on it too. He'll find space in the box and he'll also chase center-halves on the ball all day.  If we play him on the right, he inavariably has to come back into midfield to try and make something happen with the ball but he's not good enough technically to do that. It's about time we gave him a run through the middle because he will score goals.

If Lambert seems set on play 3 up top, I'd play Zogbia and Grealish/Bacuna either side of Weimann on saturday. I'd leave Gabby on the bench.
I'd rather see us play 2 up front though personally and I'd give Bent a go with Weimann. Andi covers all the ground Bent won't. I'd play a diamond in midfield with Zogbia on the tip floating.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1236 on: November 06, 2014, 05:38:43 PM »
Andreas can play 90 minutes and the more opportunity to do so the more match fit he is. I see this guy has really embraced the club and area and feels passionately about the team and his playing time. His best position is up front and the steady development demonstrated by him indicates that playing as a front man allows him best opportunity to get goals. Weimann seems to often be deployed as a right or left striker even as a number 10 behind a striker I appreciate his efforts when playing. I personally would have Andi Weimann  as the main front man week in week out and 90 minute player.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1237 on: November 06, 2014, 10:36:00 PM »
A mate of mine saw Andreas and Clark at the Irish Centre and said they were just two regular people.

None of this "Do you know who I am?" bollocks.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1238 on: November 07, 2014, 11:14:15 AM »
I like Weimann, and I feel sorry for him in a way. He's very rarely used in his best position. I reckon in a side that actually created chances he'd score a lot of goals.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1239 on: November 07, 2014, 12:22:17 PM »
I like Weimann a lot. He's not going to score you 20 goals a season but he puts a shift in and I do think he'd score a few more given better service. It's not as if he misses sitters every week.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1240 on: November 07, 2014, 12:40:03 PM »
I like Weimann, and I feel sorry for him in a way. He's very rarely used in his best position. I reckon in a side that actually created chances he'd score a lot of goals.

i agree although i think a new manager would sell him on and become a huge hit with Genk, or Excelsior in the Belgian league. maybe Red Bull Salzburg in Austria.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1241 on: November 07, 2014, 01:38:21 PM »
I like Weimann a lot. He's not going to score you 20 goals a season but he puts a shift in and I do think he'd score a few more given better service. It's not as if he misses sitters every week.
I feel the expectation Lambert puts on him sometimes, to be a player who has to help building attacks, joining play, as opposed to being a player on the end of the attacks, doesn't help Weimann. He's just not the sort of player who'll ever be comfortable dropping deep to link up play or instigate attacks. He should be working the center-backs, keeping them on their toes and getting on the end of some service.
Again though, the service in itself is also a problem.

We've certainly got to play people in their best positions and we've also got to improve the amount of chances we create. Andi will hit double figures if played through the middle.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1242 on: November 07, 2014, 02:19:37 PM »
229 minutes per goal this season when we've struggled to create chances backs up the thinking that he's a 10-15 a season striker if used properly.  I think he gets a lot of unfair criticism because he is being asked to do a job he's not really suite for.  Even then playing wide in a 3 would be ok if he wasn't expected to drop back so far and so often.  His willingness to work hard and do all the dirty work is what has held him back and yet people actively question his attitude, I just don't get it.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1243 on: November 07, 2014, 03:04:05 PM »
229 minutes per goal this season when we've struggled to create chances backs up the thinking that he's a 10-15 a season striker if used properly.  I think he gets a lot of unfair criticism because he is being asked to do a job he's not really suite for.  Even then playing wide in a 3 would be ok if he wasn't expected to drop back so far and so often.  His willingness to work hard and do all the dirty work is what has held him back and yet people actively question his attitude, I just don't get it.
Play him up front or if we have to play him in a wider role, on the left as opposed to the right, as he'd be better cutting in. Likewise, don't burn him out. Since Lambert took over he's run Andi into the ground. Not just playing him in too many games when he looked exhuasted, or desperately short of form (he really needed resting midway through last season, he was struggling majorly), but also within those games, sometimes Andi will run out of steam on 70 minutes but Lambert keeps him on till the end.

I think Andi looks fitter this season, certainly slimmer so perhaps he'll last 90 minutes and game to game just that bit better. In a side struggling though, the very least you want is some desire and someone working their bollocks off. Andi does that. Gabby doesn't, Bent certainly doesn't, and Benteke sometimes looks a little dis-interested if it's not quite going right.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #1244 on: November 07, 2014, 07:52:03 PM »
Works hard but sadly, not good enough. We are where we are, because we have players of the quality of Andi Wiemann. Scores with the odd nice finish though and never seems to play down the middle, perhaps he might be a better player if he did. Certainly offering more than Agbonlahor at the moment.

 


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