Andreas Weimann

[Colhint]

wasn't Bale crap for about 18 months?

[pauliewalnuts]

wasn't Bale crap for about 18 months?

I am pretty sure that, a year plus after he joined them, there was a stat that said Spurs had never won a match which he had started.

[Ron Manager]

Dennis Mortimer had a very poor start with us when he joined from Coventry and then improved dramatically.

Bennett like Delph has fast feet. He is going to make it in time. The club will need to persevere with him.

[VinnieChase84]

The bindippers are after him this summer allegedly. We need to get him signed up as priority número uno

[willywombat]

wasn't Bale crap for about 18 months?

I am pretty sure that, a year plus after he joined them, there was a stat that said Spurs had never won a match which he had started.

I remember him being linked with a 3 million pound move to small heath at one point

[Toronto Villa]

The bindippers are after him this summer allegedly. We need to get him signed up as priority número uno

Yes, we've gone from Inter Milan to Dortmund to Racist FC. Tomorrow it will be Wigan, Wednesday Barnsley and by next weekend Coventry on a free.

[Hoppo]

My mum loves Joe Bennett.. That's good enough for me.

[paul_e]

Bennett in my mind isn't up to it in terms of first choice in his position, he's just not good enough - yet.

I agree with Chris, re buying potential, but I think with some of the players, we're kind of forcing the issue - either you sink or you swim, because more often than not, you're going to be thrown into it.

That concerns me a bit - ie that we're the wrong side of the fine balance between buying and nurturing potential, and wrecking it.

I agree on the bottom line but this is where good scouting and coaching becomes important.  If these guys are going to hit the peak of their potential they need to take the negatives from this season and work out what to do about them.  If they can do that and come back knowing they can cope with situations next year and mentally prepared to 'go again' then they'll be fine.  If they can't get beyond them then they're not going to make it at this level.  This mental toughness is really important in the development years for players.  To get as far as they have suggests there is an element of that self-belief there, the coaches, etc just need to help them build on that.

Weimann (to be topic) is a great example of the mental strength you want in a young player, he just doesn't seem to let things get him down, if things go badly he gives another 2% to make up for it.  It's that attitude that has made him so popular with the fans and that leads to him being so influential at times.

[Mister E]

Weimann (to be topic) is a great example of the mental strength you want in a young player, he just doesn't seem to let things get him down, if things go badly he gives another 2% to make up for it.  It's that attitude that has made him so popular with the fans and that leads to him being so influential at times.

And, it appears, Gardner Jnr also seems to have this innate mental toughness ...
Westie has done amazingly to step up from Crewe to P'ship; perhaps a good sign re his personal resilience and mental toughness.

[paul_e]

Weimann (to be topic) is a great example of the mental strength you want in a young player, he just doesn't seem to let things get him down, if things go badly he gives another 2% to make up for it.  It's that attitude that has made him so popular with the fans and that leads to him being so influential at times.

And, it appears, Gardner Jnr also seems to have this innate mental toughness ...
Westie has done amazingly to step up from Crewe to P'ship; perhaps a good sign re his personal resilience and mental toughness.

Absolutely, I'd say the same about Baker, Delph, Lowton and Bannan as well.  I think Clark has struggled a little more but he's had a lot more on his shoulders than the rest with being made captain during his first real extended run in the side but I think that suggests that he's probably the strongest of the lot, I know a lot of people on here like to give him shit and would happily sell him but I think he's shown a hell of a lot of will to make it through this season and i think he'll come out of it a much better defender.

[pauliewalnuts]

Bennett in my mind isn't up to it in terms of first choice in his position, he's just not good enough - yet.

I agree with Chris, re buying potential, but I think with some of the players, we're kind of forcing the issue - either you sink or you swim, because more often than not, you're going to be thrown into it.

That concerns me a bit - ie that we're the wrong side of the fine balance between buying and nurturing potential, and wrecking it.

I agree on the bottom line but this is where good scouting and coaching becomes important.  If these guys are going to hit the peak of their potential they need to take the negatives from this season and work out what to do about them.  If they can do that and come back knowing they can cope with situations next year and mentally prepared to 'go again' then they'll be fine.  If they can't get beyond them then they're not going to make it at this level.  This mental toughness is really important in the development years for players.  To get as far as they have suggests there is an element of that self-belief there, the coaches, etc just need to help them build on that.

Weimann (to be topic) is a great example of the mental strength you want in a young player, he just doesn't seem to let things get him down, if things go badly he gives another 2% to make up for it.  It's that attitude that has made him so popular with the fans and that leads to him being so influential at times.

I agree, but I think there's a difference between having lots of promising players and having a promising team. You can have eleven promising, young players who are eager to learn, but throw them all together into the team at the same time, and it doesn't mean you're going to get a decent, promising team out of it.

I think we got that balance wrong too often this season - I appreciate the point, that it was frequently injuries that forced us to do that, but having more experienced players to come in would have helped with that.

[Mister E]

Absolutely, I'd say the same about Baker, Delph, Lowton and Bannan as well.  I think Clark has struggled a little more but he's had a lot more on his shoulders than the rest with being made captain during his first real extended run in the side but I think that suggests that he's probably the strongest of the lot, I know a lot of people on here like to give him shit and would happily sell him but I think he's shown a hell of a lot of will to make it through this season and i think he'll come out of it a much better defender.

Interesting that Clark has looked very good for the RoI in his last two outings.
In this era where many teams play only one out-and-out striker CC will definitely come into his own and this season will have been a large part of his development. If he can be partnered with a really strong and confident CB next season (and this may be Vlaar), there is huge reason to be optimistic about him.

[Drummond]

I think the vast majority of players that have been in the side this season will improve and learn from the toughest of times.

Even the Chelsea game was a good lesson and though the manager was criticised for not changing the system/approach to reduce the absolute thumping we got, the players will have continued to learn and develop as a result. They will have learned far more from that than they would if Chelsea had settled for a 3 or 4-0 win and coasted for the rest of the game.

Weimann has been great so far and works very hard at his game. He's part of a squad of players that are going through things together and have done for years (think of Clark, Bannan, Baker, Lichaj, Herd, all coming through the youth and reserve teams together) and perhaps he would like to see how he gets on for another year or two.

[PeterWithesShin]

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[peter w]

That thing gave his height as 6'2. That can't be right?