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Offline Stu

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #780 on: March 24, 2013, 03:30:40 PM »
Bennett isn't utter shite, I think he'll come good. I'm not sure in what position yet, but he'll be ok.

Fair enough. I've not seen anything from him that convinces me he's good enough. Not consistently anyway. Definitely not the standard required for us, let alone Prem level.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #781 on: March 24, 2013, 03:36:30 PM »
Bennett isn't utter shite, I think he'll come good. I'm not sure in what position yet, but he'll be ok.

Can't argue. Quick feet, good pace, decent cross on him. But not on this or any other planet is he a full-back. One to file under "Potentially Exciting".

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #782 on: March 24, 2013, 03:37:29 PM »
Add in a creative player with a good delivery, defensive midfielder, centre half and we are in for a much better campaign next term.

Still think we need a first team LB. Bennet needs to beef up and improve his positional sense he looks very lightweight but think he will come good over time. Survival is key as to who we bring in ........

Bennett needs replacing. Utter shite.
everton bought baines from wigan for £6m and stuck him on the bench for 18 months to learn his trade. you wouldnt swap many left backs for him now would you? i bet the toffee fans who couldnt see anything at all were saying he is utter shit, get rid!

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #783 on: March 24, 2013, 03:42:34 PM »
Add in a creative player with a good delivery, defensive midfielder, centre half and we are in for a much better campaign next term.

Still think we need a first team LB. Bennet needs to beef up and improve his positional sense he looks very lightweight but think he will come good over time. Survival is key as to who we bring in ........

Bennett needs replacing. Utter shite.
everton bought baines from wigan for £6m and stuck him on the bench for 18 months to learn his trade. you wouldnt swap many left backs for him now would you? i bet the toffee fans who couldnt see anything at all were saying he is utter shit, get rid!

Sorry, are we talking about Bennett or Baines?

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #784 on: March 24, 2013, 04:09:20 PM »
Add in a creative player with a good delivery, defensive midfielder, centre half and we are in for a much better campaign next term.

Still think we need a first team LB. Bennet needs to beef up and improve his positional sense he looks very lightweight but think he will come good over time. Survival is key as to who we bring in ........

Bennett needs replacing. Utter shite.
everton bought baines from wigan for £6m and stuck him on the bench for 18 months to learn his trade. you wouldnt swap many left backs for him now would you? i bet the toffee fans who couldnt see anything at all were saying he is utter shit, get rid!

Sorry, are we talking about Bennett or Baines?
you understand the comparison.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #785 on: March 24, 2013, 04:17:25 PM »
Baines was £6m? Crikey. That wheeler deal DWhelan certainly knows how to get a good price. When will the Zog be worth £10m ever again?
Bainesy has proved more than worth it plus he has a great haircut and taste in music.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #786 on: March 24, 2013, 04:47:23 PM »
you understand the comparison

So because Baines got lots better it means that Bennett DEFINITELY will?

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #787 on: March 24, 2013, 04:55:48 PM »
you understand the comparison

So because Baines got lots better it means that Bennett DEFINITELY will?
surely you can see that from the first game that bennett has played up intil the present time there has been a marked improvement in performance. my analogy with baines is that he should be probably be kept on the sidelines learning his trade, but he has been in at the deep end alot and his maistakes have been magnified. i feel there is a very good technically gifted player there now but doesnt have the know how particulary at this present time.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #788 on: March 24, 2013, 04:59:35 PM »
Add in a creative player with a good delivery, defensive midfielder, centre half and we are in for a much better campaign next term.



Still think we need a first team LB. Bennet needs to beef up and improve his positional sense he looks very lightweight but think he will come good over time. Survival is key as to who we bring in ........

Bennett needs replacing. Utter shite.

I think he will be fine , shown signs of promise and much better in a flat back four - needs to work on his defensive side a bit but i don't think we need to worry of much about him, a lot of our players will have gained much experience from this season and be better for it next season.


I think/hope Lescott could be one of those 2 for 1 signings.  He will add experience and ability to our defence but he also adds a bit of versatility.  He can play centre back and left back which will mean the development of Clark/Baker/Bennet are not impeded too much, crucially it also means they can get taken out of the firing line when needed.

Offline Stu

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #789 on: March 24, 2013, 05:03:17 PM »
you understand the comparison

So because Baines got lots better it means that Bennett DEFINITELY will?
surely you can see that from the first game that bennett has played up intil the present time there has been a marked improvement in performance. my analogy with baines is that he should be probably be kept on the sidelines learning his trade, but he has been in at the deep end alot and his maistakes have been magnified. i feel there is a very good technically gifted player there now but doesnt have the know how particulary at this present time.

The thing is that he's had enough time, even shown some flashes of being a good player, but has been found lacking. Hopefully we'll get a proper LB and he can maybe to go out on loan. I really think he's out of his depth.

Aaaannnyway; Andreas Weimann, lets hope he signs.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #790 on: March 24, 2013, 05:07:13 PM »
you understand the comparison

So because Baines got lots better it means that Bennett DEFINITELY will?
surely you can see that from the first game that bennett has played up intil the present time there has been a marked improvement in performance. my analogy with baines is that he should be probably be kept on the sidelines learning his trade, but he has been in at the deep end alot and his maistakes have been magnified. i feel there is a very good technically gifted player there now but doesnt have the know how particulary at this present time.

The thing is that he's had enough time, even shown some flashes of being a good player, but has been found lacking. Hopefully we'll get a proper LB and he can maybe to go out on loan. I really think he's out of his depth.

Aaaannnyway; Andreas Weimann, lets hope he signs.
this is exactly why i used the baines analogy. everton fans and manager showed flashes but no consistency, but they persevered and look what they got now.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #791 on: March 24, 2013, 05:10:14 PM »
If we had had somebody good enough to teach him his trade we would not have needed to buy him in the first place.   In a perfect world players can be eased into a regular starting team place but the thing nobody has in the Premiership is time.   The Black Hole we fell into over Christmas lasted what? Six weeks? Two months?   That is all it takes to set a club back twenty years.

If we had kept the Chelsea game to 4-0 and the Spurs game to 2-0 we would have got a draw out of the Wigan game and be presently virtually safe.   But we didn't.   Bish, bash, bosh for nil against fifteen.   In less time than it takes to say Founded in 1874.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #792 on: March 24, 2013, 05:30:23 PM »
I agree that Bennett has some good ball skills. He's not good enough defensively to be first choice at the moment. But it is possible to learn. Ashley Cole didn't used to be able to defend.

That doesn't mean that I or anyone else is predicting he will be a great player for us. But I don't see why anyone would give up on him yet.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #793 on: March 24, 2013, 06:15:44 PM »
I agree that Bennett has some good ball skills. He's not good enough defensively to be first choice at the moment. But it is possible to learn. Ashley Cole didn't used to be able to defend.

That doesn't mean that I or anyone else is predicting he will be a great player for us. But I don't see why anyone would give up on him yet.

Exactly, at the moment we're not able to sign players who are the finished article so we're buying potential.

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Re: Andreas Weimann
« Reply #794 on: March 24, 2013, 06:20:24 PM »
Bennett in my mind isn't up to it in terms of first choice in his position, he's just not good enough - yet.

I agree with Chris, re buying potential, but I think with some of the players, we're kind of forcing the issue - either you sink or you swim, because more often than not, you're going to be thrown into it.

That concerns me a bit - ie that we're the wrong side of the fine balance between buying and nurturing potential, and wrecking it.

 


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